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[SmokinLoon]

Every single plane can kill every other plane. No plane is exempt from this rule, it's the pilot that makes the difference.

Yeah, true.  But the choice of plane makes for a much heavier factor that pilot "skill".  Put the newest of the new in a P51D, and the best of the best in a Ki-43 Oscar.  Also, I'd like to see some of the "aces" take up the P40C vs a just out of training still wet behind the ears greenie in a Spit16 and see how things go.  The plane has to do more with the "success" of the score and rank mongers in AH than most people will admit.  Otherwise, we'd see a lot more 190G-2, Yak-9U, Spit V, Ki-61 Tony, and P38G, etc, "aces" in the LW arena.

But otherwise yes, the Spit14 is the easiest of the Spit's to deal with, I agree.

[mthrockmor]

It is the Spit8 that bothers me the most. It is the plane of the officianado. Noobs tend to climb into the 16 or 14. Those in the 8 know why they strapped it on and fly it thusly. Noobs strap on the others because they are "ubber." My A5 loves 14s.

boo

[klingan]

Dora/152s are unfortunately flyable to me with their one-ping-spinner-radiator leak.

Yupp this needs to get fixed.

[mthrockmor]

On a serious note let's revisit the weight of the A8. I have read the documents showing the model in AH is too heavy, the real A8 was several hundred pounds lighter. Let's fix that as a starter.

There is a reason why Cpt Brown, HMRN (Brit Royal Navy) listed the best bird of WW2 was the 190, tied with the Spit. Has AH responded to the documents on the A8 weight issue? If so, why will they not address them? If not, why will they not?

Boo

[Zacherof]

A lighter A8? Yes please! I'd switch to the A8 at that point.

[Wmaker]

The real 4400kg A8 that documents already posted for will never ever happen in AH.

A-8's current take off weight matches the take off weight which is given documentation you mentioned. And that weight happens to be 4391,7 kg. So the A-8 in AH already weighs what you wish it to weigh.

[Zacherof]

A-8's current take off weight matches the take off weight which is given documentation you mentioned. And that weight happens to be 4391,7 kg. So the A-8 in AH already weighs what you wish it to weigh.

so what is with all the gripes about A8?

[Myg]

I think the gripe is the lack of armour to go with that weight; while the weight is modelled; the armour of it is not (is the claim of the situation).

So they are saying they want one without the armour, because the a8 doesn't appear to take anymore damage then an a5, thus the a8 would be properly represented if that were to occur.

(Basing it off of the history I know of the topic/subject)

[whiteman]

i love seeing the Spit14, I break one way and i watch it flop all over the place and line up for an easy kill

[bustr]

Hitech please have the specific fighter ID portion of the Avatar tell "save" and all of us the exact model of aircraft a bit farther away with specific abbreviations. Say 3k. Then keep them or change to the current close range names. I can attest flying the spit14, inside of 3k separation, A8's have a very hard time of it. But, then I was having to fight my own spit5\9\8\16\14's, 109's, ponies, p47's, F4U's, yaks and almost everything else to get the kill on A8's these days below 12k.

Maybe there is something to this weight thing. I keep running into A5 pilots who run rings around my spit8\16\14 and make me work my kester off to get rounds on them. While the A8 seems to dive well, roll well, and do great high speed loops better than the spits until they run out of E.

So how does an A8 with 25% fuel DA against an A5\D9\spit9\spit8\spit16\spit14 with 75% fuel meeting coalt at 10K? Isn't that about the amount of the "Weight Issue" in MA terms? 

Suggestions for 3k Avatar name.
spt1
sfr2c
spt5
spt9
spt16
spt8
spt14
tif
temp
hur1
hur2
hurD
Shur
Mos

Bfe
BfF
Bfg2
Bfg6
Bfg14
BfK4
410
110c
110g
fw5
fw8
fw9
fwf8
262
163
87g2<---A8's have lost HO's to me. Evil A8 killer.


51b
51d
47n
47m
4740
4725
4711
40c
40f
40n
39q
39d
38g
38j
38l

And so forth.

[Aspen]

I like not knowing the exact model until you are up close.  I would think in real life guys had to be pretty close to see the subtle differences between some models.  They probably had a pretty good idea of what model they should be running into, but lots of versions came out over the course of the war and it makes for interesting first contact stories.


Regardless, if I'm in the wrong plane at the wrong speed when I meet a XIV its less cause for concern than many other models.  I like that its getting used more and I expect there will be more folks learning it resulting in it becoming a bigger threat than its viewed now.  I've only flown it a few times and I can see it being a very dangerous plane when flown with patience and skill.  I totally lack one and possess only a little of the other so its not the plane for me.

AMAX