It is truly amazing; perhaps heart wrenchingly depressing rather, just how small and petty so many people are capable of becoming when they are able to avoid the consequences of social norms, especially of that simple civil construct we have generally labeled courtesy. The selfishness that most civil societies have deemed as unacceptable behavior is unleashed with such ease, especially by those sadists who are unable to feel good about themselves through normal behavior and insist upon bullying at every opportunity they can safely do so without consequence in order to have an enjoyable time. If you are called out by the social norm and you fail to find any shame in your behavior, you need help. If you are unable to determine if you should be seeking help, go to a local gathering of people and repeat your previous encounter with them. If nothing of consequence happens, by all means carry on. I doubt many in this and previous, threads would find it completely free of consequence. Our remonstrations only fall upon deaf ears because it lacks any ability to enforce social norms in this environment. A shame. A crying shame. I know I have been ashamed of my online unaltered, online behavior before, and I try to respect the reason why and maintain civility. This, the forums, and ch 200 in game, are consistently brought to light as the worst parts of this game, at least it is to me and others whose opinions I have read or heard and respect in the slightest. Why bother coming? Why not? Given the rules I have the reasonable expectation to a civil forum, you do not have the reasonable expectation of the reverse. It is nice to see when people stand up to the bullies. It is a shame our stamina is not up to the level of the troll and griefer though, they have a hardwired itch to scratch and are built to go the distance and then some. Shame it works out that way, but good on those standing up for what is right, and shame on those who lack the ability to understand why, or simply accept or admit, they may be in the wrong. A pity we all don't have the drive to shout you down more than you have the ability to shout everyone else down. Online, that is. To do so usually requires way more effort for the lack of any form of enjoyment in such juvenile pursuits. Such small, so very small, human beings you are.