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Offline Rob52240

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Well as some of you may remember I used to spend a lot of time at the helm of the vTARDS.  Well tomorrow I will be meeting with my new boss (3rd one in 2 weeks) and before he has a chance to say anything I'm handing him a roll of antacid and telling him that I'm done effective immediately.

They aren't worth using as a reference and they stopped paying me essentially.
They're giving me 160 hours worth of work to do a week and asked if i could do an additional 250 pole disconnects. 
« Last Edit: June 20, 2013, 06:19:22 PM by Rob52240 »
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 06:21:47 PM »
Sounds like you have a bridge-burning course of action laid out, and don't have a question.  Why the post?  Need validation that your plan will let you ride into the sunset looking a cool guy anti-establishment hero, leaving the rest of the suckers behind? 

Hint - it never works that way.  You only get to monologue and rant to your boss then heroically fall on your sword (quit) in the movies.  It generally doesn't sound nearly as cool when you do that in RL.  Mostly it makes them fill out the employee termination paperwork as if you were fired for cause instead of quitting, and that makes some things harder in the future.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but you've probably been daydreaming for a while about the day you'll get to tell them to suck it, and the fantasy is a lot larger than reality in many cases.  If you're going to go down that road, you gotta go big.  Example - a guy I knew tried to do that sort of thing to his boss when quitting a motorcycle sales/repair shop.  The boss chucked him out of his office before he really got started, so instead of finishing his "I quit" speech he went to the showroom, tossed a motorcycle through the storefront window, and only THEN could he ride off into the sunset as the rebellious anti-establishment cool guy.  He was unemployed for months after that, and the only good thing that happened was that the boss reported the broken glass as random vandalism instead of going after the quitter for the replacement cost, so the insurance company probably paid for most of the repair.
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 06:41:49 PM »
i dont have a speech to make to him.  This won't be personal towards him either.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 06:45:35 PM »
i dont have a speech to make to him.  This won't be personal towards him either.

If it isn't personal, then why not just write a polite letter of resignation with 2 weeks notice (or whatever notice is desired/required per company policy)?
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 06:58:51 PM »
they stopped paying me, I'm stopping work.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 08:49:58 PM »
they stopped paying me, I'm stopping work.


Ok.  Put it in writing, drop it off, and walk out.  Why make it some drama event?  If you want drama, include an invoice charging them for any unpaid work, giving them 30 days to pay up before you refer it to legal counsel for collection.
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 08:52:27 PM »
What kind of work do you do?
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 09:40:22 PM »
Ok.  Put it in writing, drop it off, and walk out.  Why make it some drama event?  If you want drama, include an invoice charging them for any unpaid work, giving them 30 days to pay up before you refer it to legal counsel for collection.


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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 10:19:02 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2013, 11:56:37 AM »
I have no idea what state you live in but there should be some kind of wage and hour division of labor there. You need to contact them and file a complaint. As soon as you do then turn in your resignation letter making it immediate based on lack of wages, contractual breach from your employer. Since you quit you won't be eligible for unemployment right away. If you are fired, you can draw it immediately usually.

Having done that you can then go looking for new employment and when they ask about your previous employer you can in good faith tell them about not being paid for 2 weeks and the employer still asking you to produce while in breach of contract. No reputable employer would hold an immediate resignation against you on the basis of failure to be paid by the previous employer.

Burning bridges can be emotionally satisfying but only worth it if you are leaving that industry altogether.
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2013, 12:39:41 PM »
Before you make any move, go to your local unemployment office and tell of your plight with your "current job" before you tell them you are leaving and get some advice.

Tell them about not being paid and that you can't work for free with no income for more than a few days before you end up homeless or without food.

It is possible that you would be eligible for benefits of which some would be pried from your employer's pockets but you will have to officially be "laid off" or "fired" to usually collect..........but you get nothing if you quit.

It is possible that not being paid will qualify you as "laid off" but you won't know until you go to the unemployment office.

Not only that, but a wise choice of wording of your skills and experience will allow the search engine that employers browse to get your resume to tons of good employers.

I would visit the office as soon as possible and bite the bullet until you find out what must be done to secure temporary benefits and having your resume visible to a large amount of potential employers.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 12:41:10 PM »
Persnally, that is the kind of bad manager that people "go postal" with on the way out the door.

Please don't do it.

It also sounds like at your next place you may want a job further up the trough.  Being mid-management yourself or even management next time.  Give it a shot sometime!  I ran a 1,500+ machine casino with 25-35 employees and had a blast!  Took it from $4.4 MIL a year to $16.6 MIL a year--and I was just getting started.  I had NO LOVE for the people I worked FOR--but the friends I made and the people I worked WITH I will never forget.  Life's gold.   :aok
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 12:14:09 PM »
Ended up going drama free.

I told him I was done the next morning and today when I had my exit interview and they asked why I quit I just said that I couldn't think of a reason to stay.
Russ just smiled and said "Anything else?"
I said "F- your boss Russ."
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 12:34:57 PM »
17 years ago I quit a job and got unemployment. If they are not paying you that is basicly letting you go. It was not easy, lots of paperwork with the state but in the end I got unemployment. I am there only one that I know about who ever did that. The owner of the company eventually went out of business because her shady " rip everybody off" ways.
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Re: Srategy ?uestion for RL managers or have a lot of experience.
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 12:48:07 PM »
I've got enough work lined up to keep me busy for a while.
If I had a gun with 3 bullets and I was locked in a room with Bin Laden, Hitler, Saddam and Zipp...  I would shoot Zipp 3 times.