AH's WEP monsters

[Lusche]

In game, shouldn't MW-50/GM-1/ADI  be proportional to the arena fuel burn rate? I would think it should be. If the arena burn rate is 2.0, that should double the MW-50/GM-1/ADI burn rate as well.

That's some grey area right now. One could argue that planes not requiring any additional subtances for WEP could then enjoy an advantage they never had in real life.
As it is, all WEP of all planes are modeled in a very generic (and, to me, not always exactly comprehensible) way and the TA 152 doesn't actually consume any MW or N2O. And also it doesn't get lighter when "consuming" this non existant stuff.
If you wanna introduce such details for this plane, I'd say the whole WEP system in AH would need a redesign

[Widewing]

If you wanna introduce such details for this plane, I'd say the whole WEP system in AH would need a redesign

I would say that an overhaul of WEP programming is long overdue. An old gripe for example: Of all R2800 powered aircraft, only 3 show a reduction in fuel consumption when running ADI.

Yes, the WEP duration, cool-down time and water/methanol capacity should be examined and adjusted as required.

[Randy1]

I would say that an overhaul of WEP programming is long overdue. An old gripe for example: Of all R2800 powered aircraft, only 3 show a reduction in fuel consumption when running ADI.

Yes, the WEP duration, cool-down time and water/methanol capacity should be examined and adjusted as required.

We tend to wish what is bad for others and good for us.  I wish 190 wings would come off  in a dive.   

[GScholz]

If ADI consumption isn't modeled then these birds are flying with, in some cases, hundreds of pounds of added weight that never gets reduced.

[gyrene81]

We tend to wish what is bad for others and good for us.  I wish 190 wings would come off  in a dive.   

they do, once you get it to the point of shaking really good, pull back on the stick real hard...

[Zacherof]

We tend to wish what is bad for others and good for us.  I wish 190 wings would come off  in a dive.   

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[MK-84]

Let us not forget the 190D
Under military power it is good. With WEP it is awesome

[MK-84]

We tend to wish what is bad for others and good for us.  I wish 190 wings would come off  in a dive.   

They can if you really crank back on the stick 

[Tilt]

I would say that an overhaul of WEP programming is long overdue. An old gripe for example: Of all R2800 powered aircraft, only 3 show a reduction in fuel consumption when running ADI.

Yes, the WEP duration, cool-down time and water/methanol capacity should be examined and adjusted as required.

I would agree WEP ( or more accurately combat setting) on Lavochkins was not just a power setting. It also involved trimming the engine cooling vanes to reduce drag. This could be done independently of engine power setting.

Whilst I may not wish for massive engine management stuff a consideration of Lavochkin WEP being both power and drag orientated may render more interesting outcomes.

[bozon]

I would agree WEP ( or more accurately combat setting) on Lavochkins was not just a power setting. It also involved trimming the engine cooling vanes to reduce drag. This could be done independently of engine power setting.

Whilst I may not wish for massive engine management stuff a consideration of Lavochkin WEP being both power and drag orientated may render more interesting outcomes.

Most planes had independent control over the state of the cooling flaps of the engine/radiators. Pilots could close them and hit WEP at the same time, but I do not know what this would do to the engine. AH does not model this and just use fixed drag coefficients. The important thing in term of gameplay is that the final performance in speed/climb matches the real test data.

If this is achieved by having a little to much horsepower that offsets a little too much drag, then this is still a good approximation. The other option is much more complex engine management, and modeling that needs to calculate engine cooling at various combinations of radiator/cowling flaps, engine setting and airspeed. I suspect that this would be a significant modeling effort that will give little net gain in "realism". I'd love to have it if it is feasible.

[Zacherof]

And 20 perks per barrel of high ocatane gas

[Midway]

My Dad was an was a mechanic during ww2.  He said that water injection was an engine's worst enemy.  The mechanics knew which pilots abused it more than others.

I say whatever keeps 'em alive...  

  They can fix the aircraft or replace the engine.

[Tank-Ace]

We tend to wish what is bad for others and good for us.  I wish 190 wings would come off  in a dive.   

I wish our 190A5 could use the higher ata that it was cleared for in (IIRC) 1943. I wish all my planes had more of their ordnance options too.

On a more serious note, one would think that such a system would give a large advantage to aircraft with water injection, since sorties rarely last long enough to run out, in the case of the Ta 152.

If the 109s had a similar duration, they could run wep for the entire sortie, since their internal fuel capacity only gives about 1/2 hr on mil power.

A K4 with WEP performance for the entire sortie would really be a sight to see. The jugs could probably run WEP for a typical sortie in AH as well; P-47M might become even more common for that reason alone.