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Offline kilo2

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HO?
« on: June 27, 2013, 09:44:35 PM »
What is a HO? I have returned to the MA recently after a long break and I have found that there are many people claiming HO.

It seems much more prevalent than I remember. Maybe you can help me define what is considered lame gameplay.



So after shooting down SkyRock(video below) I was accused of the dreaded HO along with insults.

Check it out and let me know is that a HO? Is that even a cheap shot?




(Video is not my usual standard)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgLw_xn4ang&feature=youtu.be
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Re: HO?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 09:47:42 PM »
IMO, yea, he had a shot too and didn't take it because he wanted a decent fight. Then again, on your end, you're pilot wounded so you wanted to end the fight quickly, but he had no way of knowing so....HO forgiven.  :angel:

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Offline uptown

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Re: HO?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2013, 10:29:12 PM »
No HO. Anything after 1st merge is fair game.
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Re: HO?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2013, 10:37:09 PM »
HOing (Head On) is a legitimate shot. It's insanely wreckless since your opponent can shoot you as well, but If you die in a head on pass it's because you flew into their guns. Next time don't fly into their guns. Head On shots are the easiest to avoid.

I used to be one of those that thought HO shots were dweeby, but then I realized that it was a very commonly used tactic for planes that are built for it. If a zeke is insane enough to go head on with my P-47 then I'd be stupider than him if I didn't shoot him.

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Re: HO?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2013, 10:44:23 PM »
so Latrobe, do you think that was a HO though? It was pretty much borderline but that's how the cards fell. I die a lot like that in game but usually put it down to a bit of lag or something.
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Re: HO?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2013, 10:45:08 PM »
Meh, to me, if a both pilots have a shot on each other and one doesn't take it while the other does, my respect goes out to the one who didn't take it. Especially in a match up like in the vid Spit vs Ki84.

410 vs Ki43? And the 410 HOs? Fine, it's basically his only chance of winning. But Spit vs Ki84 is fair game. And for one to Take advantage of the other's mutual rivalry relationship? That's lame.

But, the video shows kilo2 pilot wounded, so he was going to die if he didn't take the shot, so in this case, it's understandable. I personally would've just held my fire and see how long I could last in a situation like that. I prefer a long, good fight that results in a loss than a short lame win.

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Re: HO?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2013, 10:46:12 PM »
Feh.  I saw a shot opportunity that was taken, and taken well.  Care not what it looked like.  :aok :salute
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Re: HO?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2013, 10:47:21 PM »
The only time I get frustrated with HO's is when you are outnumbered, and you have to spend the entire time avoiding HO's, until you eventually can't, or never get offensive. If you have the advantage, you shouldn't go for a HO, it would be idiotic if your life was at stake.  I know it's a game, but again, it's a bad idea to go for a HO when outnumbering someone...but if that's what they choose, there's not much you can do.  Those are the kind of HO's I'd rather not see though.

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Re: HO?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 10:49:26 PM »
My favorite kills are when people dive away from a HO situation, then a roll, apply hard rudde and blow them away :banana:


But what do I know!  :rolleyes:

If I find myself alone against more than 2 guys, I'll ho till the last con, at which point I'll fight :D

Generally tho, hoing is frowned upon and gives people a bad stigma :old:

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Re: HO?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 10:53:39 PM »
how could you think he was not able to face shoot you? Woulda been pretty easy had he chosen.. but like Titanic said.. you were pw'd so, meh..

funny you bring the video here with that music.. another one? Was he like your 2nd?  :D
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Re: HO?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 10:55:53 PM »
so Latrobe, do you think that was a HO though? It was pretty much borderline but that's how the cards fell. I die a lot like that in game but usually put it down to a bit of lag or something.

I'm with titanic on this one. It looked like he had a shot too but decided not to take it. He probably thought you wouldn't shoot either. The only one anyone can blame their deaths on is themselves. My advice to him is always assume everyone is going to take any shot they can get. If you're making a turn and you see you're going to be going head on and you don't want to risk a head on shot but aren't sure if the other guy will hold his fire.. assume he won't. Don't continue the turn and put yourself in a head on pass, change your flight path so they can't make a shot.

Nothing wrong with a Head On shot, complaining to other people for your death is.

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Re: HO?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2013, 12:50:41 AM »
Clean kill. I would have taken that shot.

For skyrock I would have chosen the same path of tactic but you gotta watch you dot cross the enemy's guns. You have to throw a negative push for a second to take you out of line and then set you self up with a throttled down reverse.
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Re: HO?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 02:09:05 AM »
A HO, in my mind, occures when you fire your guns at the enemy from a possition in which either he did have, or could have reasonably gotten, guns on you as well.

Typically its intentional, which is when it becomes bad form, but if you just happen to be heading strait at someone in a furball, by all means open fire. Its not the act that is annoying, its the useage of it as a tactic, since it does largely leave things up to chance.
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Re: HO?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 02:24:10 AM »
I love watching the HO screamers try to HO a buff formation at 30k and fail.

It takes two to HO.

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Re: HO?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 02:28:33 AM »
I love watching the HO screamers try to HO a buff formation at 30k and fail.

It takes two to HO.
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