HO?

[Volron]

I don't know what your in-game name is but if you fly a variety of planes I can tell this much about you:

1. you want to learn
2. losing a fight doesn't bother you that much
3. you like a challenge
4. a good fight or matchup is more enjoyable to you than a easy kill


I certainly have more respect for someone like you than someone who flies easy mode every single sortie, constantly trolling and throwing around names of past and present uber pilots in hopes of being known as having some kind of brotherly fraternal bond with them.

I was gonna go with "special", but I like this write up better.

Of all the planes in AH, the only ones I have not flown are the Tempest and the Ki-43.  The plane I tend to fly the most is the A6M3, so it could be said that's my preferred fighter.  Otherwise, I actually don't have a preferred fighter, so it's all over the board.  I'm a bomber guy, what can I say.   I did do all of last tour (aside from the 6 times I was in a field gun, 0 gv's) in just the He-111 after all.  But that doesn't mean I'm afraid to take up a fighter.

[kilo2]

Great responses. With the definition of HO always changing I thought it would be best to pose the question to the community. It seems now front quarter deflection shots are falling under the HO umbrella. At least for some people.

In my opinion having watched the film and hearing the responses I think it was a lame shot but in the same circumstances I would take it again.

Sukov ran out of Rope attempt energy, and I got an angle on his 6 and shot him...not good enough, he then pulled hard for the HO... I could have shot him in the face as well, but didn't...  What is silly to me is that anyone would believe it wasn't a headon shot... much less bring the film in here and ask others for clarification, if you don't know that this is a HO shot, then you still have plenty of learning to do!    Sukov, As much as you were hunting me over there, it seemed you wanted a fight, but after I B-slapped you on the overshoot the first time you ran out of rope attempts, it was obvious that your ego couldn't allow another owning, so...  you did what many pilots do that are outclassed, you start pulling to HO...    it is what it is!  




Edit:  I didn't watch the film or finish reading the thread before I posted this.... having a pilot wound I understand why he went HO... but I didn't know that at the time... I was merely reacting to him hunting me down over there and playing lameass ropeyboy then running when that didn't pan out...  it's not the first time he's done it, and won't be the last, I call him HO boy, right after he runs out of E and I can't call him ropeyboy anymore and I think both names fit nicely!

You did shoot me down in the sortie prior and to my understanding it was a good fight. I should have mentioned it earlier because I thought you might bring it up even though it really has no bearing on the sortie mentioned in the original post. There was no "hunting" you that is your ego speaking. You have a bad habit of exaggerating circumstances to feed that ego.

Both times I did not run. In fact I turned around to meet you. Have I ran before? Yes.

I do enjoy roping people.

[Volron]

Great responses. With the definition of HO always changing I thought it would be best to pose the question to the community. It seems now front quarter deflection shots are falling under the HO umbrella. At least for some people.

In my opinion having watched the film and hearing the responses I think it was a lame shot but in the same circumstances I would take it again.




You did shoot me down in the sortie prior and to my understanding it was a good fight. I should have mentioned it earlier because I thought you might bring it up even though it really has no bearing on the sortie mentioned in the original post. There was no "hunting" you that is your ego speaking. You have a bad habit of exaggerating circumstances to feed that ego.

Both times I did not run. In fact I turned around to meet you. Have I ran before? Yes.

I do enjoy roping people.

You do a damn good job at roping folks.  Seen it in some of those awesome video's you've made.  Now the question is, WHEN YE GONNA MAKE ANOTHER ONE!?

[SkyRock]

In my opinion having watched the film and hearing the responses I think it was a lame shot but in the same circumstances I would take it again.

I agree with this statement, it was lame because you knew who it was and you knew you were getting a fight out of it...  but I would actually agree that taking the shot when pilot wounded is acceptable and probably your only chance given the circumstances, although I'd damn near rather to bleed out than beat someone I was having a good fight with by shooting them nose on when they could shoot me also.  Sukov, no problems with you bud, stay out of the lameness, and into the fight! 

[zack1234]

I Ho all the time and I am awesome, ask anyone

[Arlo]

...  but I would actually agree that taking the shot when pilot wounded is acceptable ....

Every shot is legit. Every tactic is legit. I don't protest, single-out or condemn. I don't brag or parade my arse. I don't
hold back any shot or tactic, either.
 
I developed the ability to dodge as early as flying with VF-17 in AW. It's not a hard skill to master nor an amazing skill
to show off.

Basically, whiners may wanna believe they have a legitimate gripe but it's really a case of more ego than they can afford.

[SkyRock]

Every shot is legit. Every tactic is legit. I don't protest, single-out or condemn. I don't hold back any shot or tactic, either.
 
I developed the ability to dodge as early as flying with VF-17 in AW. That was when I really didn't do much more than
furball in a Corsair. It's really an easy skill to develop.

Basically, whiners may wanna believe they have a legitimate gripe but it's really a case of more ego than they can afford.

Arlo, I'm glad your giving your 10cents, but that's all it's worth to me!  I look for a good fight, and face shooting is generally very unstisfying to me...  I mean I face shot for the first 3-6 months I played the game just trying to get a kill, then getting a kill that way simply lost all luster, so I moved on...  it's an approach to the game, and I simply cannot deny that I respect certain approaches more than others, that is apparently a 180 from others who play the game and there the rift is cemented....  So, I have fought Sukov before in the DA canyon fights, where many of my like-minded pals gather to fight, and most of us that gather there feel the same way about face shooting...  so I don't expect it out of certain players... I will expect it out of you, and will probably throw in the "HOtwit" comment if you're ever lucky enough to kill me using your approach!  I'm sure you will respond by calling me a whiner about it, but I will expect that from you also!  Thank you for your 10cents, which won't buy a piece of gum these days!

[Arlo]

Arlo, I'm glad your giving your 10cents, but that's all it's worth to me!  I look for a good fight, and face shooting is generally very unstisfying to me...  I mean I face shot for the first 3-6 months I played the game just trying to get a kill, then getting a kill that way simply lost all luster, so I moved on...  it's an approach to the game, and I simply cannot deny that I respect certain approaches more than others, that is apparently a 180 from others who play the game and there the rift is cemented....  So, I have fought Sukov before in the DA canyon fights, where many of my like-minded pals gather to fight, and most of us that gather there feel the same way about face shooting...  so I don't expect it out of certain players... I will expect it out of you, and will probably throw in the "HOtwit" comment if you're ever lucky enough to kill me using your approach!  I'm sure you will respond by calling me a whiner about it, but I will expect that from you also!  Thank you for your 10cents, which won't buy a piece of gum these days!

You cut me to the quick. I may never recover. 

[Changeup]

Every shot is legit. Every tactic is legit. I don't protest, single-out or condemn. I don't brag or parade my arse. I don't
hold back any shot or tactic, either.
 
I developed the ability to dodge as early as flying with VF-17 in AW. It's not a hard skill to master nor an amazing skill
to show off.

Basically, whiners may wanna believe they have a legitimate gripe but it's really a case of more ego than they can afford.

Lot of "I"'s in this post for someone talking about keeping their ego in check.  Lets see how it would look with no "I".

Every shot is legit. Every tactic is legit. THE GOOD ONES don't protest, single-out or condemn. NOR DO THEY don't brag or parade THEIR arse. THEY don't
hold back any shot or tactic, either.
 
THEY developed the ability to dodge HO's. It's not a hard skill to master nor an amazing skill
to show off.

Basically, whiners may wanna believe they have a legitimate gripe but it's really a case of more ego than they can afford.

I only mention this because NO ONE WAS TALKING TO YOU NOR WHERE THEY ASKING WHAT YOU DO. 

 

[caldera]

I really enjoy a good dogfight.  Trading angles for a good shot (I know even this is controversial) brings the greatest game satisfaction IMHO.  Getting HO’d on the initial merge is not a dogfight and complaining about HO’s is futile.  Avoiding HO’s is easier when the closure rate is high but when both planes are slow it’s not so easy.Avoiding HO’s is easier when the closure rate is high but when both planes are slow it’s not so easy.

  all!

This is an issue that arises fairly often:  We are having a good fight and now down on the deck, things are getting slow.  We end up nose to nose.  Is he gonna shoot me or not?  If I roll out, he could take the shot.  Used to never take the shot and was often burned for it.  Now I will consider taking the shot.  If it's a Spit XVI, I am taking the shot.

[Arlo]

Lot of "I"'s in this post for someone talking about keeping their ego in check.  Lets see how it would look with no "I".

Every shot is legit. Every tactic is legit. THE GOOD ONES don't protest, single-out or condemn. NOR DO THEY don't brag or parade THEIR arse. THEY don't
hold back any shot or tactic, either.
 
THEY developed the ability to dodge HO's. It's not a hard skill to master nor an amazing skill
to show off.

Basically, whiners may wanna believe they have a legitimate gripe but it's really a case of more ego than they can afford.

I only mention this because NO ONE WAS TALKING TO YOU NOR WHERE THEY ASKING WHAT YOU DO.  

 

"NOR DO THEY don't brag .... " (heh)

And here's the appropriate googled pic to go with this impressive diatribe.  

[SkyRock]

You cut me to the quick. I may never recover. 

I knew it was going to hurt!!