Finally installed Windows 7

[bj229r]

(kid gave me a 'Windows 7 Ultimate' disk) Love it....it does SOOO many things natively that XP took multiple programs and heap many profanities to accomplish.

Question? What things can I kill with FSautostart? All the processes/services are different now

[Bizman]

Blackviper.com seems to have been the right place for over a decade.

[bj229r]

Ohh--ought have mentioned....what thingies can I kill that still allow me to play AH?

[Bizman]

For playing AH you'd need access to the Internet and a running Windows. Read the BV Win7 configuration page thoroughly. There you'll find a list of all Windows 7 services for all versions, their default values and the modifications for "safe", "tweaked" and "bare-bones". Since you won't read the beginning of the page, even the "safe" option works for only 95% of computer users, the rest much less. Read everything related at least from his site to understand what you're doing and why, and how can you roll back if things don't go your way. I repeat: Read.

For services that aren't listed, use Google to find out what they are. Many third party programs have a service running, too. Some are necessary, some aren't. There's no two similar setups, so you're the only one to help yourself concerning your rig.

You don't have to stop services the way BlackViper does, you can use FSautostart to shut down the services BV suggests. Besides, FSautostart is a bit aged, AlacrityPC is the new version of it and might -just might- work better with Win7. I really don't know, maybe they both work equally well for temporarily shutting down services.

[SirNuke]

the best upgrade from winXP to Vista/7 was the installation program....what a pain that was in XP, especially when you have a non standard (by 2002 standards) disk controller

[bj229r]

Yeah Biz,  I've found that Process Explorer is capable of closing several things that fsauto cant (Mbamservice, for instance) I expect better ones exist..... Condescension aside, I was simply looking for a common group of services that EVERYONE kills, I'll use 'hit and miss' to guess the rest

[Chalenge]

It's been awhile, but it's still available through search:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250077.0.html

[guncrasher]

if you arent sure how alacritypc works it will mess up your system requiring a os reinstall.  it happened to me when I used it.  there is no easy way, you gotta research first what you either manually shut down or a program does for you.



semp

[gyrene81]

so the recommendation is to use a program to temporarily shut down services because you're not sure what services can or should be shut down?     

[bj229r]

The program is merely the easiest method to kill a group. When I used XP, there were some 23 things I'd kill before playing AH. Less unneeded crap running, less micro-warps, etc. Can't imagine 7 is any different in that regard

[gyrene81]

The program is merely the easiest method to kill a group. When I used XP, there were some 23 things I'd kill before playing AH. Less unneeded crap running, less micro-warps, etc. Can't imagine 7 is any different in that regard

when looking at the services, if you look at them first as "what is needed" the list of things you can disable is quick and easy. if it's not needed, disable it. the next step would be to look at "what is needed to do what is required". some things can be set to manual so they only run if you want them to.

for instance, telnet, fax, tablet pc input service, remote registry, task scheduler, windows search, themes, telephony, internet connection sharing...can all be disabled. it's not difficult and a lot less risky than using a program.

[Bizman]

Yeah Biz,  I've found that Process Explorer is capable of closing several things that fsauto cant (Mbamservice, for instance) I expect better ones exist..... Condescension aside, I was simply looking for a common group of services that EVERYONE kills, I'll use 'hit and miss' to guess the rest

Good to know, I was in the belief that fsauto would list every service, only that it might not be able to give any further information about services newer than the program itself.

A batch file would also work for killing a group of services until next boot. The command is simple: "net stop <service name>" without quotes and parentheses, of course. "Net start" would restart each, but I suppose a reboot would be better. The most laborious part would be finding the real names for the services (i.e. Indexing Service is really CiSvc), but it only has to be done once. The list of services can be found through typing "services.msc" into the "Run" command box, of course there's several other ways to access the console. Double clicking a service gives its properties including the real name, alongside all of its dependencies. To kill a process in the TaskManager's Processes listing, the command is "taskkill /f /im "program.exe"". Yes, the program should be in quotes. Just type one command on a line with Notepad and save the file as "Startgame.bat" on your Desktop. Double-click it and Violin! you've killed everything without any third party program. If something goes wrong, a reboot will get you going again.

[bj229r]

Very cool info, thanks

[Bino]

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A batch file would also work for killing a group of services until next boot. The command is simple: "net stop <service name>" without quotes and parentheses, of course. "Net start" would restart each, but I suppose a reboot would be better. The most laborious part would be finding the real names for the services (i.e. Indexing Service is really CiSvc), but it only has to be done once. The list of services can be found through typing "services.msc" into the "Run" command box, of course there's several other ways to access the console. Double clicking a service gives its properties including the real name, alongside all of its dependencies. To kill a process in the TaskManager's Processes listing, the command is "taskkill /f /im "program.exe"". Yes, the program should be in quotes. Just type one command on a line with Notepad and save the file as "Startgame.bat" on your Desktop. Double-click it and Violin! you've killed everything without any third party program. If something goes wrong, a reboot will get you going again.

Very nice description! 

While putting together a "stop-services.bat" file on my home desktop, I found that I needed to first right-click to pull up the actions menu and then left-click "Run as administator" to get the "net stop..." commands to run.  I began experimenting with my work desktop and when I got home I added a few more services and several "taskkill" lines to dump a few Apple iPod and RIM BlackBerry programs, but here is what I started with:

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rem ### network location awareness
net stop nlasvc

rem ### background intelligent transfer service
net stop bits

rem ### windows update
net stop wuauserv

rem ### ip helper (IPv6 transition gizmo)
net stop iphlpsvc

rem ### offline files
net stop cscservice

rem ### superfetch
net stop sysmain

rem ### print spooler
net stop spooler

rem ### fax service
net stop fax

rem ### remote registry
net stop remoteregistry

rem ### routing and remote access
net stop remoteaccess

pause

[Bizman]

Very nice description! 

While putting together a "stop-services.bat" file on my home desktop, I found that I needed to first right-click to pull up the actions menu and then left-click "Run as administator" to get the "net stop..." commands to run.  I began experimenting with my work desktop

Yes, I forgot to mention batch files are an admin level right click thing. My mistake.

Funny thing here is, that years ago I asked if someone could code such a batch file and the answer was to download FSautostart instead.

BTW what does the pause do? I mean, is it necessary for the batch to run?

Another idea yet: Couldn't the last line as well include "C:\Hitech Creations\Aces High\aceshigh.exe"? Somehow I can't get it to work.