Non-Easy Mode Planes

[curry1]

410
P-40C
P-39D

But if we're talking about flying them correctly

 P-38
190D
F4U

never had any luck in them, personally.

Wut?  Corsair is one of the easier planes to fly effectively once you figure out there is a flap button.

[Zacherof]

Wut?  Corsair is one of the easier planes to fly effectively once you figure out there is a flap button.

Flaps only go so far. start rolling with flaps and 

any off them that require flightsuits!  Nekked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brooke]

For the MA, my guess would be that the P-40's are most difficult, although I don't fly them much, so I'm not positive about that.

I wouldn't count the Me 410 as a fighter, but if so, that one, to me, seems more difficult than even the P-40 if we are talking about fighter vs. fighter and not fighter vs. bomber.

I have flown the other candidates a fair amount (P-39D a lot, C.202, Spit I, Hurri I, Bf 109E, Bf 110C).  They are all OK, in my opinion.  The P-39D is not a dog -- it is reasonably fast down low, handles well at high speed, and turns reasonably well.  I do better in that than I do in the P-38!    The C.202, Spit I, Hurri I, and Bf 109E are all good at turning with (except for the 109E) the main weakness being low lethality of guns, so they can still be competitive in most MA fights.

[pervert]

Hardest planes I'll assume you mean fighting in, and hard as in annoying to fly because everything else is faster.

1. F1 Sopwith Camel

In terms of stick input and good form to fly it this is hands down the hardest plane in Aces High too fly well, usually you can stick a good stick in any plane and they will fly it half way decent even a DR1, not so the F1 you have too be a real sadist to fly this especially against the DR1, the gyro effects make the most simple of maneuvers a life or death affair in a fight. The plane seems like a dog at first but with a lot of experimention, deaths and practice it starts to perform for you and ends up being something really rewarding too fly.


2. FW 190 D9

It doesn't turn at all, all the D9 really has is top of the line thrust a big engine, like the K4 but minus the turn, in a flat turn it actually does turn better with no flaps, its that bad in turn, its the embodiment of the fact that in terms of manoeuvrability in a fight turn is second to thrust.

[Brooke]

The FW 190D-9 is one of the planes I do best in, and it is one of the most-popular planes.  But if we're talking about planes that we individually have a harder time in regardless of whether or not overall the plane is competitive, then for me, it would be the P-38.  Every plane has its strengths and weaknesses. The P-38's weaknesses line up precisely with my weaknesses, I guess. 

[uptown]

I'd have to say the B5N. I have no problem getting behind my opponent but I can never get any hit sprites on him  



















   

[Brooke]

In scenarios, the weakest planes are a much different set, and they depend on the situation.

For example, in A6M2 vs. P-40, the P-40 is preferable, in my opinion (i.e., P-40 isn't the low man on the totem pole anymore).  And in late war, the Spit 16 isn't very good -- too slow.

[Brooke]

I'd have to say the B5N. I have no problem getting behind my opponent but I can never get any hit sprites on him

   Many, many is the time I have wished that the B5N had forward guns.

[uptown]

In scenarios, the weakest planes are a much different set, and they depend on the situation.

For example, in A6M2 vs. P-40, the P-40 is preferable, in my opinion (i.e., P-40 isn't the low man on the totem pole anymore).  And in late war, the Spit 16 isn't very good -- too slow.

                            

[MK-84]

Hardest planes I'll assume you mean fighting in, and hard as in annoying to fly because everything else is faster.

1. F1 Sopwith Camel

In terms of stick input and good form to fly it this is hands down the hardest plane in Aces High too fly well, usually you can stick a good stick in any plane and they will fly it half way decent even a DR1, not so the F1 you have too be a real sadist to fly this especially against the DR1, the gyro effects make the most simple of maneuvers a life or death affair in a fight. The plane seems like a dog at first but with a lot of experimention, deaths and practice it starts to perform for you and ends up being something really rewarding too fly.


2. FW 190 D9

It doesn't turn at all, all the D9 really has is top of the line thrust a big engine, like the K4 but minus the turn, in a flat turn it actually does turn better with no flaps, its that bad in turn, its the embodiment of the fact that in terms of manoeuvrability in a fight turn is second to thrust.

I disagree on the 190D9.  It's awesome.  A plane does not need to have a great turning radius to absoutley dominate the MA.  Take the 262 for example but its lack of turning radius doesnt seem to come up like it does with the D9.  Probably because of a lack of perks and thus the risk of losing one, and also because it is much harder to actually get it too slow.  If you're engaging an enemy in a D9 and trying to utilize its best turning radius you're doing it wrong. This is a plane build for speed and meant to be kept fast.

[RedBull1]

the Spit 16 isn't very good -- too slow.

[MK-84]

Wut?  Corsair is one of the easier planes to fly effectively once you figure out there is a flap button.

Then I really wouldn't consider it easy mode.

[pervert]

I disagree on the 190D9.  It's awesome.  A plane does not need to have a great turning radius to absoutley dominate the MA.  Take the 262 for example but its lack of turning radius doesnt seem to come up like it does with the D9.  Probably because of a lack of perks and thus the risk of losing one, and also because it is much harder to actually get it too slow.  If you're engaging an enemy in a D9 and trying to utilize its best turning radius you're doing it wrong. This is a plane build for speed and meant to be kept fast.

So you equate the title of this thread non easy mode to basically being a s1%t plane?  I would see it as what plane is harder to squeeze the best out of.

[MK-84]

To even consider something easy mode shouldnt there be some criteria?
For a new player I think that something would have to have good hitting power and ballistics combined with excellent handling characteristics, a much better than average turning radius while slow, and decent high speed handling.

F6F
I suggest this is the best airplane for a new player to be able to get kills in and possibly return to base.
Spit16
N1K2

[MK-84]

So you equate the title of this thread non easy mode to basically being a s1%t plane?  I would see it as what plane is harder to squeeze the best out of.

No I was replying to what was considered easy mode and I lost track of the title which was the exact opposite apologies for the unintentional hijack.

Non easy mode: (that imho could and can be awesome)
D9
Ki84 (which i cant figure out but i totally respect)
109k4
Me262
F4U models (all)
La7 (blurs the line to me, but I suspect it is only truly awesome with an awesome pilot).
Spit14
FW190 (all)

And what can be flown to extremes making it far better than it is, or (should be?):
bf110 (both)
A20
A6m3
Mossie