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Offline earl1937

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Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« on: July 31, 2013, 07:33:00 AM »
 :airplane: While this aircraft is not used during the WW2 era, it has a valuable place in military aviation history! Built by the Douglas aircraft company, it filled a much needed niche for over-sized cargo and troop carrier.
Douglas Aircraft developed the C-124 from 1947 to 1949, from a prototype they created from a World War II–design Douglas C-74 Globemaster, and based on lessons learned during the Berlin Airlift. The aircraft was powered by four large Pratt & Whitney R-4360 piston engines producing 3,800 hp (2,800 kW) each. The C-124's design featured two large clamshell doors and a hydraulically-actuated ramp in the nose as well as a cargo elevator under the aft fuselage. The C-124 was capable of carrying 68,500 lb (31,100 kg) of cargo, and the 77 ft (23 m) cargo bay featured two overhead hoists, each capable of lifting 8,000 lb (3,600 kg). As a cargo hauler, it could carry tanks, guns, trucks and other heavy equipment, while in its passenger-carrying role it could carry 200 fully equipped troops on its double decks or 127 litter patients and their attendants. It was the only aircraft of its time capable of transporting heavy equipment such as tanks and bulldozers without disassembly.

The C-124 first flew on 27 November 1949, with the C-124A being delivered from May 1950. The C-124C was next, featuring more powerful engines, and an APS-42 weather radar fitted in a "thimble"-like structure on the nose. Wingtip-mounted combustion heaters were added to heat the cabin, and enable wing and tail surface deicing. The C-124As were later equipped with these improvements.
First deliveries of the 448 production aircraft began in May 1950 and continued until 1955. The C-124 was operational during the Korean War, and was also used to assist supply operations for Operation Deep Freeze in Antarctica. They performed heavy lift cargo operations for the US military worldwide, including flights to Southeast Asia, Africa and elsewhere. From 1959 to 1961 they transported Thor missiles across the Atlantic to England. The C-124 was also used extensively during the Vietnam War transporting materiel from the U.S. to Vietnam. Until the C-5A became operational, the C-124, and its sister C-133 were the only aircraft available that could transport very large loads.

The United States Air Force Strategic Air Command (SAC) was the initial operator of the C-124 Globemaster, with 50 in service from 1950 through 1962. Four squadrons operated the type, consisting of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Strategic Support Squadrons. Their primary duty was to transport nuclear weapons between air bases and to provide airlift of personnel and equipment during exercises and overseas deployments.

The Military Air Transport Service (MATS) was the primary operator until January 1966, when the organization was retitled Military Airlift Command (MAC). Within a few years following the formation of MAC, the last remaining examples were transferred to the Air Force Reserve (AFRES) and the Air National Guard (ANG), said transfers being complete by 1970. The first ANG unit to receive the C-124C, the 165th Tactical Airlift Group (now known as the 165th Airlift Wing) of the Georgia Air National Guard was the last Air Force unit to retire their aircraft (AF Serial No. 52-1066 and 53-0044) in September





 
 
 
 

    
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 10:00:55 AM »
 neat plane. Thanks for posting. Those wings look small.
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 01:51:29 PM »
 Earl,

 Was the term BUFF used for the C124?  It is a big ugly flying..... :devil


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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 02:23:39 PM »
Earl,

 Was the term BUFF used for the C124?  It is a big ugly flying..... :devil


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:airplane: Have no "stick" time in C-124, just a passenger on one coming back to states in 1957. The "slang" name for this aircraft was "shaking Jake", and if you ever flew in one you would know why. Constant viberation, but carried out its mission profile for the U.S.A.F very, very well. As best I can remember, the term "Buff" was born when a USAF 1st Lt by the name of McDuffie Stallworth, first saw a B-52 at Carswell AFB in Texas and he exclaimed, "Gosh, what a big,ugly fat fellow"! Don't know if he was first to say it, but I heard him say those words myself!
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 04:06:05 PM »
There are a few dials and switches at the engineer's station.  ;)

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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 02:33:01 PM »
There are a few dials and switches at the engineer's station.  ;)
:airplane: The engineers station on the B-29C was almost a carbon copy of this panel on the C-124. I always had a lot of respect for those engineers, as they knew the aircraft and systems better than anyone on the crew.
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 05:22:40 PM »
Earl,

Was the term BUFF used for the C124?  It is a big ugly flying..... :devil

BUFF is the nickname for the B-52.  It's kind of a pet peeve of mine that people incorrectly refer to bombers in this game as "buffs" when it was never used to refer to any other bomber other than the B-52.

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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 05:59:42 PM »
They could call bombers furniture vans if I have my German translation correct.

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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 06:09:51 PM »
BUFF is the nickname for the B-52.  It's kind of a pet peeve of mine that people incorrectly refer to bombers in this game as "buffs" when it was never used to refer to any other bomber other than the B-52.

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 I do understand that buff was used for the B52,silly me I was trying to make a joke!

  The C124 isn't exactly an attractive aircraft and it's sort of on the large size.



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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 06:59:16 PM »
WWII German pilots called B-17's "Dicke Autos" (fat cars?).

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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2013, 07:48:31 PM »
:airplane: The engineers station on the B-29C was almost a carbon copy of this panel on the C-124. I always had a lot of respect for those engineers, as they knew the aircraft and systems better than anyone on the crew.

Earl, in that shot of the pilots seats I don't see any prop control levers.  Were the governors electric?  Or did just the Engineer have the prop controls?
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2013, 08:37:30 PM »
WWII German pilots called B-17's "Dicke Autos" (fat cars?).

Sounds like the perfect name for a car dealership.

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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 02:02:08 PM »
Earl, in that shot of the pilots seats I don't see any prop control levers.  Were the governors electric?  Or did just the Engineer have the prop controls?
:airplane: Correct, the engineer handled the props, but pilots did have "electric feathering switches". Same thing for electric "idle cutoff" switches" for the fuel system in the event of emergencies!
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2013, 02:07:38 PM »
We had a couple at Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage Alaska, when I was stationed there in the early 70's. They were used to fly odd sized cargo to the Radar sites. Man I'm getting old LOL. :old:
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Re: Ah, For the Good Old Days!
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2013, 07:16:33 PM »
We had a couple at Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage Alaska, when I was stationed there in the early 70's. They were used to fly odd sized cargo to the Radar sites. Man I'm getting old LOL. :old:
:airplane: One of the "odd" things about the history of the C-124 is, as far as I know, was never flown by a civilian cargo operator! Just about all the other cargo transports, which flew for the military, flew as well for a civilian operator, such as the C-45/ C-46/C-47/DC=4-6-and 7B's and etc, but no C-124's, Boeing 377's to name a few. I guess it was the cost of operating those R-4360's and over-all maintenance.
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