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Offline MADe

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Re: Plane Specs
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2013, 09:45:48 AM »
I do not really count refinements made after the war.
My comments were based on what a channel 13 show had to say about the 163. The 163 was not really involved in the war. You did not have squadrons of 163's taking to the skies. Maybe single units took off but.......................... ........

Either way all great info folks. thanx for all the input.

I guess the reason planes seem tougher than they should be is due too the fun factor used and the internet itself. After all, we all play the game on our own computers and then the server reconciles as best as the codeing and internet lag allows. Like any mediocre player, I sometimes look for whats not there.
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Re: Plane Specs
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2013, 10:44:39 AM »
There were no refinements made to any German aircraft after the war.  The Me163 had a throttle from the beginning and the glide back to base and land on the skid to be reused as well. You are correct that there were very few used.

Beware of using TV shows as references as they play pretty loose with the truth.  For example there is an American TV show that claimed the P-51D was armed with six 50mm guns.  TV shows about the Mosquito almost always refer to it as being hard to detect on radar because it was wooden when it wasn't any harder to detect than any other aircraft its size.
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Re: Plane Specs
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 10:52:08 AM »
I do not really count refinements made after the war.


Germany lost the war... no more refinements after May, 8th 1945 ;)
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Re: Plane Specs
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2013, 12:55:53 PM »
Beware of using TV shows as references as they play pretty loose with the truth.  

True statement, but NOVA does provide many original documents with their shows. The winners of any war due have a tendency to rewrite history.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2013, 01:07:29 PM »
True statement, but NOVA does provide many original documents with their shows. The winners of any war due have a tendency to rewrite history.
To a degree, open democracies like the US and UK are notably less prone to it than dictatorships like the Soviet Union or, had they won, Nazi Germany.

In this case though you'd have the rewriting being in favor of the German Me163 rather than downplaying it.  I don't think we're seeing any rewriting of history when looking at the Me163 or Me262.
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Re: Plane Specs
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2013, 12:49:06 PM »
So I'm in Tempest, hangar shows standard armament loadout at 150 rounds. Go to fly and weapons count is at 300. So for the tempest, within that map, the tempest loadout is x2 of standard loadout.

So my question is, is every single craft with weapons loadouts at a "x2" state, or have planes been given different loadout parameters?

Personally I do not mind adding differences from real life, fun factor, as long as what is applied to 1 is applied equally to all.

To me its important that differences in craft abilities not be changed on a willy nilly basis, but reflect the real world differences between craft designs. To take an early war plane and set it up to compete with late war planes is blasphemy. Craft were designed in response to a working crafts abilities, I truly hope AH is not keeping peeps happy by upping a planes abilities cuz a bunch of AH'ers like it.

AH please remember, many peeps flying FA refused to make the cross over because they felt AH was to hard. brb.
Those of us that currently fly AH are the hardcore players who like combat aircraft an the reality behind them. Do not be messing with the circumstances behind an aircrafts abilities.
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Re: Plane Specs
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2013, 12:51:56 PM »
im sure its 150 rounds per cannon but the counter counts 2 banks of 2 cannons for the 300
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2013, 01:10:11 PM »
im sure its 150 rounds per cannon but the counter counts 2 banks of 2 cannons for the 300
Correct.

You have to consider how many guns each bank serves and then divide the total ammo count by that number of guns to get the rounds per gun.  The Tempest displays 300 rounds for each two gun bank, which is 150 rounds per gun.

In a P-51D you have one bank of four .50s and one of two .50s in AH.  The Tempest has two banks of two 20mm cannons.  The Mosquito has one bank of four .303s and one bank of four 20mm cannons.  These banks may or may not reflect historical firing options, for example the historical Spitfire Mk Ia could only fire all or none of its eight .303s, but in AH it can fire just four if the player wants because it has two banks of four .303s whereas the Spitfire Mk Vb could fire its two 20mm cannons, its four .303s or all six guns, just as it can in AH.
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