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Offline olds442

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Question about people RAMing
« on: July 23, 2013, 01:57:58 PM »
Suppose someone comes up from my 3 oclock high and they hit my wing yet im turning into them. Who gets damage.
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 02:01:37 PM »
Suppose someone comes up from my 3 oclock high and they hit my wing yet im turning into them. Who gets damage.


If there is a collision on their Front End ("Screen"), they take damage.
If there is a collision on your Front End ("Screen"), you take damage.

If the collision happens on both Front Ends, both take damage.

See also http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/lag/lag.htm for the basics about lag and the consequences for AH



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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 02:15:43 PM »
Clarification:

It doesn't have to be visible on your screen.  It just has be have been calculated by your computer based on the 3D space your computer is modeling and the objects it models in that space.
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 03:09:25 PM »
Clarification:

It doesn't have to be visible on your screen.  It just has be have been calculated by your computer based on the 3D space your computer is modeling and the objects it models in that space.

the challenge is that in AH there isn't one 'world', there is a unique world on every ones computer that is similar but not the same. IE. what you see and experience is not necessarily exactly what another player sees.
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 03:18:18 PM »
the challenge is that in AH there isn't one 'world', there is a unique world on every ones computer that is similar but not the same. IE. what you see and experience is not necessarily exactly what another player sees.

The good part about how it is, what you see is what you get.  What he sees is also what he gets.

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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 03:26:56 PM »
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How can they come up from your 3 o'clock high?





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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 03:40:12 PM »
Who gets damage.
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 03:40:56 PM »
Don't feel bad. If the Internet is really misbehaving the following can surprise you too.

I dove down to a con and lit him up in a P51D. Lots of sprites, no damage. I pulled up and away with 100 yards to spare. As I'm climbing up and away my wing suddenly drops off and I get a collision message. I'm also looking at the con 1.5k in my 6-view going the other way.

The rest of the night was like I was playing the game on Martian time and everyone else was playing from Alpha Centari time. Occasionally all of the green guys around me would warp like synchronized swimmers, and it seemed like my time scale never synced with any con's time scale. Or like our windows of time in the time stream were just a bit out of frame when we came together.
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 03:44:04 PM »
the challenge is that in AH there isn't one 'world', there is a unique world on every ones computer that is similar but not the same. IE. what you see and experience is not necessarily exactly what another player sees.



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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 03:44:48 PM »
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 03:50:15 PM »
Something is definitely up with the interweb lately. I have a 30 Mbs connection and am seeing my rounds go through other guys airplanes (bummer) and, I lose every collision with critical damage. <--- Generally collisions are my fault, but there have been a few where I did not think we were even that close.

The model is imperative to the game, it gives a bit of an incentive for guys not to do gun run straight through you and to think about escape angles etc...

Must be the NSA eating up all the bandwidth lol  :bolt:
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 03:55:18 PM »
Something is definitely up with the interweb lately. I have a 30 Mbs connection

has almost nothing to do with the game connections. It's great for downloading a movie, but a 56k modem should run the game about as well.

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and am seeing my rounds go through other guys airplanes (bummer) and, I lose every collision with critical damage. <--- Generally collisions are my fault, but there have been a few where I did not think we were even that close.

That is why. If the collision is detected on YOUR computer YOU will receive the damge.... everytime. That is how it is set up. Avoid the collisions and you won't take damage from one.... they may get you with their guns as the collides on THEIR computers but you won't get damage from a collision that doesn't happen on your computer.


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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 04:03:44 PM »
Don't feel bad. If the Internet is really misbehaving the following can surprise you too.

I dove down to a con and lit him up in a P51D. Lots of sprites, no damage. I pulled up and away with 100 yards to spare. As I'm climbing up and away my wing suddenly drops off and I get a collision message. I'm also looking at the con 1.5k in my 6-view going the other way.

The rest of the night was like I was playing the game on Martian time and everyone else was playing from Alpha Centari time. Occasionally all of the green guys around me would warp like synchronized swimmers, and it seemed like my time scale never synced with any con's time scale. Or like our windows of time in the time stream were just a bit out of frame when we came together.

Comcast right? Excessive buffering on your router? sounds more like latency issues.... verify if the UDP packets are being delivered or if they are being dropped....
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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 10:38:32 AM »
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How can they come up from your 3 o'clock high?





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Re: Question about people RAMing
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 11:44:48 AM »
An excellent write up explaining it all.

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/lag/lag.htm
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