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Offline earl1937

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 03:51:06 PM »
In single theater operations, the Hellcat would be number one with 5,168 kills in to the PTO, with the Mustang coming in second with 4,950 kills in the ETO.  However, if you were to combine all theater of operations, the Mustang would be number one with 5,954 kills spread out through the ETO, PTO, CBI and MTO with the Hellcat coming in second with 5,168 in the PTO and ETO.

So to answer your question, the Mustang had the most kills of any US fighter during the war.

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:airplane: Ack, you are correct, I just were considering the PTO and the ETO! But as you correctly point out, your figures are the correct ones. I would also have to include the opposition each of those aircraft had also. The German aircraft were a lot harder to kill than the Japanese.
Do you happen to know the K/D ratio of the 51 against the Japanese?
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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 03:56:27 PM »
how dare you come here and talk about.......planes :furious :furious :furious

...what the hell is this site for for............planes........ . :headscratch:




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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2013, 03:58:55 PM »
Do we really need 4 new threads a day about random trivia

As opposed to . . . ?  ;)

The BB is a blizzard of various topics.  It's so very easy to read only ones that are of some interest, might as well have lots and lots of topics.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2013, 04:04:47 PM »
Krusty, I think that you would have preferred the old GEnie system (from the old Air Warrior days).  It had topics, but the way it was organized, there were fewer topics with a lot more messages in each one.  I liked that, as it gave discussions a lot more lifetime, lessened the prevalence of many topics on the same subject again and again, and made searching for information easier.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2013, 04:20:27 PM »
Do we really need 4 new threads a day about random trivia nonsense in this forum?

Paint me as the badguy for saying it, but do we? Really?


I, for one, don't think so.

ya we could have more "pizzin' and moaning" posts like the one quoted above.  :P

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2013, 05:00:19 PM »
:airplane: Ack, you are correct, I just were considering the PTO and the ETO! But as you correctly point out, your figures are the correct ones. I would also have to include the opposition each of those aircraft had also. The German aircraft were a lot harder to kill than the Japanese.
Do you happen to know the K/D ratio of the 51 against the Japanese?

The Mustang destroyed 221 Japanese aircraft and suffered 114 combat losses.  Unfortunately, I haven't found a break down of the combat losses to see how many were shot down by Japanese aircraft opposed to being shot down by AAA.  So taking that into account, using the 114 number for combat losses, the Mustang had a 1.93:1 kill ratio in the PTO but again, it's probably higher when you break down the combat losses into losses from Japanese fighters and losses from AAA.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2013, 05:22:56 PM »
Personally I think we need more posts about Midwhomever, Greycleft, and that other douchbag.

These planes are so WWII.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2013, 12:03:50 PM »
:furious :furious Well, sir, don't recall any requirement for anyone to read any posts in this forum, but as for myself, I just try to post something that is informative and sometimes useful, especially to young guys who have just been bitten with the aviation bug! Not sure what kind of posts meets your requirements, so maybe you will enlighten us!
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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2013, 03:31:06 PM »
I like this topic, too -- thanks, Earl.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 05:56:21 PM »
Only gamers are not interested in history trivia.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 10:57:57 PM »
The kind of empirical "who's best?" question implied here is muddled by the fact that,
A:Good numbers for kills divided by subtype are hard to come by
B: Conditions varied by theater
C: Opponent varied by theater
D: Ground kills are present in some ETO tallies, maybe just to make the B-38 pilots feel better... :bolt:
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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2013, 09:26:37 AM »
10% of the F6F losses in air to air combat were shot down by one man.

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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2013, 01:01:43 PM »
10% of the F6F losses in air to air combat were shot down by one man.
:airplane: Can you share that Japanese pilot's name with us? I think I know which you refere to, but would like to see your answer.
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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2013, 01:33:27 PM »
Which fighter scored the most victories of any aircraft in history? In one theater of operations it had a 21:1 kill ratio. The top 100 aces who flew it scored more than one hundred kills each... or in other word more than the total of the P-51 and F6F combined...  ;)
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Re: Which Fighter
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2013, 02:20:44 PM »
Which fighter scored the most victories of any aircraft in history? In one theater of operations it had a 21:1 kill ratio. The top 100 aces who flew it scored more than one hundred kills each... or in other word more than the total of the P-51 and F6F combined...  ;)
The F-35? ;)


Well durr obviously a German pilot will be better overall due to how often the flew as oppose to allied pilots :rolleyes:
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