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Offline Randy1

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Game or Simulation?
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:31:54 AM »
I have noticed that my greatest enjoyment in AH comes when I am more involved in the simulation side of AH  rather than the game side.  I find this especially true when their is a team effort going to defend or capture a base or one of Earl's pickup missions.

I do like the game side so if I get blasted out of the air, I just reup but the addiction I think comes from the simulation side of AH.

Do you see AH as more game than simulation or more simulation than game?

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 11:34:43 AM »
I believe HiTech said something like it was a game using a simulation.
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2013, 11:41:09 AM »
Game.

Simulation is DCS. Game is AH.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2013, 11:49:47 AM »
What HTC supposedly said, a game using simulations. simulation would be even more realistic though as far as aircraft modeling and tank modeling we aren't so bad.

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 11:59:25 AM »
I have noticed that my greatest enjoyment in AH comes when I am more involved in the simulation side of AH  rather than the game side.  I find this especially true when their is a team effort going to defend or capture a base or one of Earl's pickup missions.

I do like the game side so if I get blasted out of the air, I just reup but the addiction I think comes from the simulation side of AH.

Do you see AH as more game than simulation or more simulation than game?
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I do enjoy the re-enactment missions, sometimes we have a "dialog" between crew members and air traffic control, just to add some atmosphere to the mission. Occsionally I add some kind of sound effects to go along with the mish, such as air raid sirens, general alarm calls when doing Navy mish's and sometimes, let the guys actually hear "Axis Sally" and Tokyo Rose spilling their vile BS.
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2013, 12:35:27 PM »
I enjoy t quite a bit when we fly within my squad because we use terminology and tactics as opposed to just trying to fight and survive. Part of it is because the terminology is really good for short comms discipline and part of it is just the immersion into the simulation. I wish there was more of a push for realistic additions to the game and integrity.

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2013, 02:58:56 PM »

   Early on I called it a Simulation (It felt like one when  I was a noob) and was verbally smacked down by HT informing me it was a game.
   Now it feels more like a game, throw the dice , move , repeat.
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2013, 03:19:53 PM »
I think game that uses simulation is very accurate.  Without delving into the offline options, the online play offers the MAs and DAs as a part of the sandbox game aspect, and for more simulated or historicaly accurate play you have the AvA, FSOs and Scenarios.

Probabley why so much reliance in the MA-sandbox is on the individual maps, as they ultimatley determine what you'll (individual or organised group) use and how you aproach a given situation or objective (which depend on the map or it's current state).  This also relates to side switching too, which I'm not argueing against, since being stuck on one (loosing or winning) side/situation can severely limit your freedom of choices.
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2013, 04:03:01 PM »
I had not considered the point of view of it being a game that uses simulation.  That does seem to blanket most of AH.  It may well be that AH's build philosophy is what holds players year after year.

I appreciate the replies.

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2013, 04:07:17 PM »
Simulation dumbed down too make a game?

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2013, 04:40:30 PM »
Simulation dumbed down too make a game?

I think it has only been dumbed down to fit your computer (2D screen, keyboard+mouse+joystick input, the ability to answer the door or go to the bathroom without crashing) or to help the new/inexperienced.
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2013, 04:46:35 PM »
I have had the most fun in the scenario events that I've flown, so closer to the simulation side of gameplay I think  :airplane:
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2013, 05:39:00 PM »
It's a game.

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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 07:02:32 PM »
Hop in a simulator one time and you'll have your answer.  ;)
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Re: Game or Simulation?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2013, 08:16:33 PM »
I look at this game as sitting in a bar drinking a couple with a few friends bs'ing about this awesome fifth you got into and barely came out alive.


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