Friction...?

[Dragon Tamer]

I was wondering if anyone else thought friction was a bit off in game. Jeeps are constantly doing power slides around burms (to be expected in an off road environment at 60mph) but they also do it on tarmak as well.

In addition I was trying to land a 47 the other day and there was a nasty hill at the end of it. I had no go around chance because I would never clear the hill and I didn't touch down until 2/3 the length of the runway. I had no ailerons to bleed speed before touch down so I just had to go with it. I held the breaks as long as I could and at the last possible second tried to do a ground spin to get rid of that extra speed. Instead I ended up hitting the hill because the jug did not want to go where it's wheels were pointing. I know a ground spin in a jug requires unlocking the tail wheel (a feature we don't have) but I tested this in another sim under the same conditions and nailed it.

Just wondering if anyone else though the friction models in game were a bit wonkey.

[olds442]

I was wondering if anyone else thought friction was a bit off in game. Jeeps are constantly doing power slides around burms (to be expected in an off road environment at 60mph) but they also do it on tarmak as well.

In addition I was trying to land a 47 the other day and there was a nasty hill at the end of it. I had no go around chance because I would never clear the hill and I didn't touch down until 2/3 the length of the runway. I had no ailerons to bleed speed before touch down so I just had to go with it. I held the breaks as long as I could and at the last possible second tried to do a ground spin to get rid of that extra speed. Instead I ended up hitting the hill because the jug did not want to go where it's wheels were pointing. I know a ground spin in a jug requires unlocking the tail wheel (a feature we don't have) but I tested this in another sim under the same conditions and nailed it.

Just wondering if anyone else though the friction models in game were a bit wonkey.

Unlock the tail wheel by pushing down on the stick

[FLOOB]

Yeah something is definitely up. The purpose of any wheel is to reduce friction. Yet when I lower my wheels the airplane actually goes slower!

[uptown]

I was wondering if anyone else thought friction was a bit off in game. Jeeps are constantly doing power slides around burms (to be expected in an off road environment at 60mph) but they also do it on tarmak as well.

In addition I was trying to land a 47 the other day and there was a nasty hill at the end of it. I had no go around chance because I would never clear the hill and I didn't touch down until 2/3 the length of the runway. I had no ailerons to bleed speed before touch down so I just had to go with it. I held the breaks as long as I could and at the last possible second tried to do a ground spin to get rid of that extra speed. Instead I ended up hitting the hill because the jug did not want to go where it's wheels were pointing. I know a ground spin in a jug requires unlocking the tail wheel (a feature we don't have) but I tested this in another sim under the same conditions and nailed it.

Just wondering if anyone else though the friction models in game were a bit wonkey.

I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying. But you get 7 tons sliding at 1oo mph it stands to reason it's going to go where it wants and not where you'd like it to go. Do you have any film to better describe the conditions your talking about? Also try deploying your flaps on final to reduce speed and make sure your prop isn't feathered back. Or just belly the plane in to stop sooner.

[Max]

Yeah something is definitely up. The purpose of any wheel is to reduce friction. Yet when I lower my wheels the airplane actually goes slower!

Increase the air pressure to 64 PSI 

[100Coogn]

To me, it feels like I'm driving on ice when turning on the ground.

Coogan 

[100Coogn]

Increase the air pressure to 64 PSI 

Coogan

[guncrasher]

use the landing gear to slow you down then pull them up and land on your belly.  I can stop my pony in like 20 yards that way.



semp

[dedalos]

I was wondering if anyone else thought friction was a bit off in game. Jeeps are constantly doing power slides around burms (to be expected in an off road environment at 60mph) but they also do it on tarmak as well.

In addition I was trying to land a 47 the other day and there was a nasty hill at the end of it. I had no go around chance because I would never clear the hill and I didn't touch down until 2/3 the length of the runway. I had no ailerons to bleed speed before touch down so I just had to go with it. I held the breaks as long as I could and at the last possible second tried to do a ground spin to get rid of that extra speed. Instead I ended up hitting the hill because the jug did not want to go where it's wheels were pointing. I know a ground spin in a jug requires unlocking the tail wheel (a feature we don't have) but I tested this in another sim under the same conditions and nailed it.

Just wondering if anyone else though the friction models in game were a bit wonkey.

why did you land gear down?

However I do agree that friction is a bit off. Some 51s and 190s should be on fire after re entry 

[Tank-Ace]

Friction does seem a bit off in some instances.

On occasion, the tanks seem not inclined enough to slip, but rather just topple over. I've watched a few films, and calculated my center of gravity. I should not have flipped in 3 out of 7 films I watched.

What I suspect it's going on is something similar to the tree issue. There is likely some push back from the terrain on occasion, compounding any tip from the gradient of the terrain.

On the ground, my biggest issue is that control surfaces have to much authority at low speeds. Bump your rudder when on taxi for a rearm, and you can screw yourself over.

[titanic3]

Spawn on a CV. Shift + G. 50% throttle. Who needs friction?

[morfiend]

Friction does seem a bit off in some instances.

On occasion, the tanks seem not inclined enough to slip, but rather just topple over. I've watched a few films, and calculated my center of gravity. I should not have flipped in 3 out of 7 films I watched.

  How pray tell did you calculate the center of gravity,do you have access to the coad?


   

[Tank-Ace]

  How pray tell did you calculate the center of gravity,do you have access to the coad?
   

Let me rephrase. I calculated roughly where the CG should have been, if modeled correctly (admittedly ignoring crew weight, since I have no idea what HTC used for that number), and that she'll weight is distributed somewhat evenly between each side.

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why did you land gear down?

However I do agree that friction is a bit off. Some 51s and 190s should be on fire after re entry 

 

[guncrasher]

Let me rephrase. I calculated roughly where the CG should have been, if modeled correctly (admittedly ignoring crew weight, since I have no idea what HTC used for that number), and that she'll weight is distributed somewhat evenly between each side.

what happens if you have a fat driver like me while the loader is some skinny kid ditching primary school?  wont the cg be askew?


semp