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Offline kilz

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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 02:35:56 PM »
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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2013, 04:41:01 PM »
hey rich did you ever get this set?  and if you did how is it?

I've got that headset (Tiamat 7.1 Analog) and its great.  You need a sound card that has analog outs, of course, since its not one of those toslink types.  It actually has individual speakers instead of simulated surround like most (but not all) other 5.1 and 7.1 sets out there.  It uses 4 tri-pole 1/8th inch jacks for all 8 channels, and another for the microphone, make sure your sound card can support this before buying (or replace your sound card as well).

It makes a huge difference in locating sounds.  People will say they can locate sounds with stereo headsets with simulated surround, or built in surround effects from the game they're playing, but they'd locate them quicker and more naturally with these.

Downside: These are not good for music playback.  I suppose if you've never heard anything better, you might not know what you're missing.  But these are not good for people that want one set of headphones for everything, they are for gaming specifically.  They do block outside noise quite well.  I can have the TV blaring in the same room, and when I put the Tiamat 7.1s on, I can barely hear the TV at all.  When I take them off, I'm shocked at how loud the TV was all that time.

I also have Sennheiser HD 555s (as it turned out, not the last headset I ever bought) and the 555 is much superior for music, but much inferior for locating sounds in games.  I have both sets hooked up to my PC and I switch outputs on my sound card to select one or the other.  The Sennheiser I use for stereo audio, and especially music, the Tiamat 7.1 I use for games that support directional sound.  Right tool for the job and all that.  Anyone who believes any stereo headset is superior for games in general is mistaken.

One caveat... the microphone included with the Tiamat 7.1 sounds like crap.  Lots of buzz.  I stopped using it after a couple days and use the same Logitech USB desktop microphone (now discontinued, but still for sale on Ebay at somewhat inflated prices) I've had for years instead.
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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 06:05:53 PM »
I also have Sennheiser HD 555s (as it turned out, not the last headset I ever bought) and the 555 is much superior for music, but much inferior for locating sounds in games.  I have both sets hooked up to my PC and I switch outputs on my sound card to select one or the other.  The Sennheiser I use for stereo audio, and especially music, the Tiamat 7.1 I use for games that support directional sound.  Right tool for the job and all that.  Anyone who believes any stereo headset is superior for games in general is mistaken.

The Sennheiser HD 555 was released for purchase in September of 2001, that is well over 10years ago, my how technology has changed since 2001.
The Sennheiser HD 555 was not release and advertised as a gaming headset. it was released and advertised as a music listening type of headset. A Sennheiser gaming headset would be a Sennheiser PC 350SE headset. which runs for about 250 bucks. My first headset was a Sennheiser and it was flawless, now that i live in Alaska the price with shipping is way more than what the misses will let me spend.

A certain type of headset or manufacture in this case is each persons opinions. to each their own opinion.

i have never used a Tiamat before and never heard of them before so i have nothing bad or good to say about them
 but i have read a ton of great reviews about Tiamat.
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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2013, 06:09:34 PM »
you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2013, 06:11:36 PM »
I've got that headset (Tiamat 7.1 Analog) and its great.  You need a sound card that has analog outs, of course, since its not one of those toslink types.  It actually has individual speakers instead of simulated surround like most (but not all) other 5.1 and 7.1 sets out there.  It uses 4 tri-pole 1/8th inch jacks for all 8 channels, and another for the microphone, make sure your sound card can support this before buying (or replace your sound card as well).

It makes a huge difference in locating sounds.  People will say they can locate sounds with stereo headsets with simulated surround, or built in surround effects from the game they're playing, but they'd locate them quicker and more naturally with these.

Downside: These are not good for music playback.  I suppose if you've never heard anything better, you might not know what you're missing.  But these are not good for people that want one set of headphones for everything, they are for gaming specifically.  They do block outside noise quite well.  I can have the TV blaring in the same room, and when I put the Tiamat 7.1s on, I can barely hear the TV at all.  When I take them off, I'm shocked at how loud the TV was all that time.

I also have Sennheiser HD 555s (as it turned out, not the last headset I ever bought) and the 555 is much superior for music, but much inferior for locating sounds in games.  I have both sets hooked up to my PC and I switch outputs on my sound card to select one or the other.  The Sennheiser I use for stereo audio, and especially music, the Tiamat 7.1 I use for games that support directional sound.  Right tool for the job and all that.  Anyone who believes any stereo headset is superior for games in general is mistaken.

One caveat... the microphone included with the Tiamat 7.1 sounds like crap.  Lots of buzz.  I stopped using it after a couple days and use the same Logitech USB desktop microphone (now discontinued, but still for sale on Ebay at somewhat inflated prices) I've had for years instead.


the mike problem is a killer for me.  people already complain about me being loud on vox, imagine loud and with lots of buzz, I'll be an outcast, lol.


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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2013, 11:35:44 AM »
those are usb.


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Yes sir they are.

I have a high end sound card. Sound blaster X-Fi. I bought this sound card when it first came out. Ran out and bought me a headset by the same makers of the tiamat and was not pleased what so ever. I went and tried to get a Sennheiser but was shot down by wife ack so I settled for the Logitech g930. USB headset and wireless. I am very pleased with them. Great sound  now I have a sound blaster X-Fi just laying around now.
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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2013, 02:50:44 PM »
Yes sir they are.

I have a high end sound card. Sound blaster X-Fi. I bought this sound card when it first came out. Ran out and bought me a headset by the same makers of the tiamat and was not pleased what so ever. I went and tried to get a Sennheiser but was shot down by wife ack so I settled for the Logitech g930. USB headset and wireless. I am very pleased with them. Great sound  now I have a sound blaster X-Fi just laying around now.

You can still use both the sound card and the G930 in AH by having the game sounds come through your speakers and vox through your headphones.

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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2013, 03:51:26 PM »
You can still use both the sound card and the G930 in AH by having the game sounds come through your speakers and vox through your headphones.

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i thought two sound drivers on a computer will screw aces high up???
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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2013, 04:35:32 PM »
i thought two sound drivers on a computer will screw aces high up???

Nope, AH actually lets you set the game sounds to your speakers and vox to your headphones/mic, and Windows allows the same.  To get both your Creative and G930 to work in Windows together and in game, just do the following.

1.  In Windows 7, go to the Control Panel then click on the Sounds icon
2.  Right click on the Creative speaker icon and select "Default Device"

Your G930 will be automatically set as the Default Communications Device by Windows. 

In AH, go to the game sounds options and for headphones select your G930 and do the same for microphone.  Next, set the other sounds to your Creative sound card, click on the Apply button and you're done.  Now you'll hear the game sounds through your speakers and vox will be through your headset.

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Re: ROCCAT Kave 5.1
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2013, 12:07:19 PM »
Nope, AH actually lets you set the game sounds to your speakers and vox to your headphones/mic, and Windows allows the same.  To get both your Creative and G930 to work in Windows together and in game, just do the following.

1.  In Windows 7, go to the Control Panel then click on the Sounds icon
2.  Right click on the Creative speaker icon and select "Default Device"

Your G930 will be automatically set as the Default Communications Device by Windows. 

In AH, go to the game sounds options and for headphones select your G930 and do the same for microphone.  Next, set the other sounds to your Creative sound card, click on the Apply button and you're done.  Now you'll hear the game sounds through your speakers and vox will be through your headset.

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