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Offline Oldman731

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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2013, 04:34:15 PM »
That is probably because the landing gear has softer suspension in Spitty due to being designed on rougher grass airfields. Spit is also prone for pirouetting upon landing due to narrow gear but it is not fatal as in 109 as Spitty is not likely to turn over when it happens.


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http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/124/language/en-CA/Bouncing-Clouds--Flying-the-Messerschmitt-Bf-109.aspx

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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2013, 04:48:10 PM »
The track of the Spitfire was narrower by 6".

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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2013, 05:28:35 PM »
So you live ten minutes from the scene. Did you get a prox kill???

Joking aside, sad to see it in the dirt although it is rather reminiscent of wartime photos.  I did note the wooden propellor. Is it true that they only used metal props? Spitfires were often fitted with wooden propellors in fact a composite using wood. They were lighter and as pointed out saved the engine in an accident. Aircraft modellers often miss this fact and only recently I saw a magazine build of a Spit IX where the modeller went to a lot of trouble to add metallic wear and tear to the propeller little realising it was in fact made of wood. Not only that he had all the chips on the front of the prop where as in fact most wear to a propeller is at the back of the blade and near the tip. :D

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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2013, 05:32:23 PM »
why do they always say the Emil had an engine mounted MgFF

Maybe because they thought the E-2 was a production variant and didn't know the trials with the 20mm firing through the spinner was unsuccessful and canceled.

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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2013, 06:18:13 PM »
So you live ten minutes from the scene. Did you get a prox kill???

Joking aside, sad to see it in the dirt although it is rather reminiscent of wartime photos.  I did note the wooden propellor. Is it true that they only used metal props?

Yes, all production 109s used metal propellers from VDM. Bf 109E used VDM 9-11081A ohne Automatik, and later VDM 9-11081E mit Automatik. F-1 and F-2 used VDM 9-11207. F-4 used VDM 9-12010. G used VDM 9-12159A (DB 605A(M)) or VDM 9-12087A (DB 605AS(M)). K Used VDM 9-12159A.
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2013, 08:31:10 PM »
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2013, 09:12:27 PM »
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2013, 05:04:52 PM »
Maybe because they thought the E-2 was a production variant and didn't know the trials with the 20mm firing through the spinner was unsuccessful and canceled.

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i even have a '76 doco that shows Bader and Tuck saying the Emil had a engine 20mm.
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2013, 01:19:46 PM »
This video is showing the forced landing from another angle: http://youtu.be/Dx8U3nDRPUs
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2013, 01:24:55 PM »
I was thinkin he tried to skid the landing to hurry up and land his kills... :rofl
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2013, 02:49:22 PM »
This video is showing the forced landing from another angle: http://youtu.be/Dx8U3nDRPUs

He was inverted a long time wonder if he starved engine for oil?
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2013, 02:56:44 PM »
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2013, 03:15:50 PM »
latrobes fault, and I don't have to pay the insurance... YES!
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Re: 109 down 10mins from my house
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2013, 08:03:43 PM »
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