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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2013, 02:04:10 PM »
Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and New Jersey. Illinois and Kentucky were laid down, but never finished.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2013, 03:04:08 PM »
:airplane: JUst to satisfy my curiosity, would you know the names of those 4. I have a neighbor who served on the Maryland right after WW2 and he is curiosity wondering if it is still around.

I work with someone who was a battery officer for the Wisconsin and later the gunnery officer for the New Jersey.

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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2013, 09:37:50 PM »
:airplane: JUst to satisfy my curiosity, would you know the names of those 4. I have a neighbor who served on the Maryland right after WW2 and he is curiosity wondering if it is still around.

Maryland, Tennessee, California and West Virginia, all survivors of Pearl lasted until the late 50s in the mothball fleet.  They were then scrapped.  Most if not all of the retired battlewagons were offered up as potential memorials but no one bit on those.  The Texas is the oldest WW2 BB still surviving. 

Maryland was made inactive reserve in 1946 and mothballed in 1947.  She was scrapped in 1959.
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2013, 06:49:31 AM »


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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2013, 09:38:14 AM »
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Wait, are we sure these are being disposed of? Looks more like Corky's personal parking space. :D
I just knew when I scrolled down that this comment was going to be at the bottom lol :bolt:

Also? I seem to recall they burned most of the "heaps" of piles like Corky's parked P-38's. Does anyone know if they ever just covered the hole? Do we have a hole someplace with Zeros all smashed together? We found Australia' spits boxed up. Should I be using some super duper ground radar looking for a dream?
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2013, 09:45:46 AM »
Maryland, Tennessee, California and West Virginia, all survivors of Pearl lasted until the late 50s in the mothball fleet.  They were then scrapped.  Most if not all of the retired battlewagons were offered up as potential memorials but no one bit on those.  The Texas is the oldest WW2 BB still surviving. 
Preserving old things seems to be a luxury of modern wealth.  There is only a single pre-Dreadnought left in the world, and the Russians wanted us to force it be scrapped after WWII.  The first Iron Clad, HMS Warrior, only survived by sheer luck.  USS Constitution and HMS Victory were both slated for scrapping at one time or another.
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2013, 11:13:45 AM »
THE 17's! NOOOOOOO  :cry
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2013, 11:53:02 AM »
H.M.S Belfast is still a floating museum upon the Thames adjacent to Tower Bridge.
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2013, 04:23:05 PM »
THE 17's! NOOOOOOO  :cry
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2013, 04:31:54 PM »
H.M.S Belfast is still a floating museum upon the Thames adjacent to Tower Bridge.
Yes, but no King George V or Warspite.
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2013, 10:03:08 AM »
The Texas is the oldest WW2 BB still surviving. 
Technically, Texas is a WWI Super-Dreadnought BB and the only remaining Dreadnought in the world AFAIK.  As for the difficulty of maintaining these ships you should check out its history as a memorial and the efforts made to preserve her including a massive new effort to get her permanently out of the water.  Of the other ships mentioned, it's quite unbelievable to me that what was arguably the most significant US Navy ship ever built, the USS Enterprise, was scrapped.  Without her the Pacific war could have ended quite differently.
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Re: Post War Heart Break
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2013, 11:17:45 AM »
Technically, Texas is a WWI Super-Dreadnought BB and the only remaining Dreadnought in the world AFAIK.  As for the difficulty of maintaining these ships you should check out its history as a memorial and the efforts made to preserve her including a massive new effort to get her permanently out of the water.  Of the other ships mentioned, it's quite unbelievable to me that what was arguably the most significant US Navy ship ever built, the USS Enterprise, was scrapped.  Without her the Pacific war could have ended quite differently.

Enterprise was supposed to have been saved, but at the last minute the organization that was going to preserve her withdrew, and replacement funding was unable to be secured. Halsey PERSONALLY scrambled to try and find another backer, but there just wasn't anyone who wanted to put up the money.
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Re: Post War Heart Break
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2013, 07:30:42 AM »
I took a tour (1998) on a Japanese BB once in Yokosuka, Japan. I think it was WW I vintage. I can't remember the name. It wasn't floating though; I think it was encased in cement to avoid the maintenance costs of a floating museum.




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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2013, 08:28:25 AM »
I took a tour (1998) on a Japanese BB once in Yokosuka, Japan. I think it was WW I vintage. I can't remember the name. It wasn't floating though; I think it was encased in cement to avoid the maintenance costs of a floating museum.




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I've seen that ship myself, it's Mikasa and she's older than WWI vintage.  It was built by Vickers for the Japanese and launched in 1900 and is the last surviving pre-dreadnought battleship.  She was Tojo's flagship during the battle of the Tsushima Straight against the Russians.  This battle really made the West stand up and take notice of Japan's new military capabilities.
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Re: Post War Heart Break
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2013, 08:31:14 AM »
I've seen that ship myself, it's Mikasa and she's older than WWI vintage.  It was built by Vickers for the Japanese and launched in 1900 and is the last surviving pre-dreadnought battleship.  She was Tojo's flagship during the battle of the Tsushima Straight against the Russians.  This battle really made the West stand up and take notice of Japan's new military capabilities.
Yup, she's the one the Russians wanted us to scrap after WWII that I mentioned above.  She was already a museum ship at the time and the Russian request was purely for spite due to the Russo-Japanese war, including Tsushima.
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