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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #315 on: August 29, 2013, 05:57:27 PM »
OK, what is the model of P51 with the cannons please ?  And was it flown and saw combat and got kills in WW2 ?

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #316 on: August 29, 2013, 06:01:10 PM »
A-36 6x50's  dive flaps and eggs saw plenty of combat
I have advocated in favor of the A-36 as well.

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« Reply #317 on: August 29, 2013, 06:12:41 PM »
You say stuff like that like you think it matters.
In my opinion it does matter when we have a plane in the game that had maybe 8 of the variant that flew and saw combat  :aok
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #318 on: August 29, 2013, 06:20:03 PM »
A-36 6x50's  dive flaps and eggs saw plenty of combat

250 Mk1a quite a few more than the F4u1c p-47m 152H-1 Brew shall i go on

You are correct, A-36 had 6 50s and the British design Mk 1A had 4x 20mm cannons.
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #319 on: August 29, 2013, 06:30:01 PM »
Almost 5 years ago ....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=250681.0



But you are misreprenting it's combat use.  The RAF birds order was 150 Mk IA.  They didn't get all those birds as many were taken over by the USAAF, of which a few were sent to North Africa with a pair of recon squadrons.  The RAF combat birds were mainly Mk I or Mk II Mustangs with the 50 cal, 30 cal mix of the Mk I or the 4 50 cal set up of the Mk II.  Those were used for Army Co-op work and recon too. 

I don't have any problem with adding an Allison Mustang, but do it based on the birds that got used consistantly.  Again the early Mustang I's were operational with the RAF for a long time.  The A36 got a lot of use in the MTO.  The P51A made a name for itself in the CBI with Phil Cochron and the 1st Air Commandos.  Many were modified in the ETO for low level photo work.

Adding the 4 cannon Allison Mustang is nothing more then an excuse for another 4 cannon bird in the MA however, and those get abused by folks enough already.
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #320 on: August 29, 2013, 06:34:47 PM »
You are correct, A-36 had 6 50s and the British design Mk 1A had 4x 20mm cannons.

The P-51 <NA-91>  92 ..FD438 thru FD567 as MkIa   and  148... 41-37320 thru 41-37469 as P-51-NA

The A-36 <NA-97> 500  .... 42-83663 thru 42-84162 as A-36-A-1-NA

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #321 on: August 29, 2013, 06:35:56 PM »
In my opinion it does matter when we have a plane in the game that had maybe 8 of the variant that flew and saw combat  :aok
Does its use dominate the long nosed 190 category of airframe?  No, it does not.  The rarely used cannon armed P-51 would completely overshadow the vastly more representative P-51A and even the better performing P-51B.  The closest analogy would be the F4U-1C, and look how that turned out, it had to be perked.

In addition that mistakes were made in the past is not a good reason to make them going forward.
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #322 on: August 29, 2013, 06:40:07 PM »
Does its use dominate the long nosed 190 category of airframe?  No, it does not.  The rarely used cannon armed P-51 would completely overshadow the vastly more representative P-51A and even the better performing P-51B.  The closest analogy would be the F4U-1C, and look how that turned out, it had to be perked.

In addition that mistakes were made in the past is not a good reason to make them going forward.

 I don't care if it gets perked :) I have 27k worth to spend on nothing :) I would love it in the MA perk it to the hills   :x


 People would love the damn thing   it would be .... should I dare say .... FUN!  :rofl
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #323 on: August 29, 2013, 06:46:07 PM »
Almost 5 years ago ....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=250681.0

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 Tiff is entitled to his opinion,   he doesn't make an bellybutton of himself like you tho  :D

A year ago

Those Burma based birds would make the most sense to me, but you know what?  I really don't care either way in the end.  Give it your best shot to get em all.  Since they'll be doing the early canopy, please include the option to use either that or the Malcom on the 51B/Cs too so there is more accuracy for each particular skin.  Don Gentile's bird being a good example of one that needs that option. :aok

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #324 on: August 29, 2013, 06:49:35 PM »
I don't care if it gets perked :) I have 27k worth to spend on nothing :) I would love it in the MA perk it to the hills   :x


 People would love the damn thing   it would be .... should I dare say .... FUN!  :rofl

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #325 on: August 29, 2013, 06:51:14 PM »
*Ding* You have used one slot of your 'Megalodon's Top 20 planes that have not yet been modeled for AHII but should be list' but you have not yet selected which number from 1 to 20 it will currently hold. Once that is selected you will have 19 left. Please select a number from 1 to 20.

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 Lets Vote on it :D just to be true I told Tiff the same thing :aok

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328441.0.html
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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #326 on: August 29, 2013, 06:54:39 PM »
Tiff is entitled to his opinion,   he doesn't make an bellybutton of himself like you tho  :D

A year ago

 :cheers:

Notice he got his Ki-43 and his He-111. We also have the Yak-3 now.

There seems a trend.  ;)

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #327 on: August 29, 2013, 06:56:13 PM »
Notice he got his Ki-43 and his He-111. We also have the Yak-3 now.

There seems a trend.  ;)

 Yeah 1 more and then the 51 IN DA HOUSE  :rofl

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #328 on: August 29, 2013, 07:00:43 PM »
Megalodon, you know you could just create a custom arena and ground everything that isn't American and flew after 1942.

It would be essentially what you want, even if you don't know it.


But either way, just leave your bias at home, and stop the "Murica!!!!  :rock" attitude.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: P-63 KingCobra......again
« Reply #329 on: August 29, 2013, 07:01:32 PM »
Lets Vote on it :D just to be true I told Tiff the same thing :aok

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,328441.0.html

You got your backside pummeled quite a lot in that thread. No wonder this is a sensitive subject. Have a doughnut.

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