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Offline JimmyD3

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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2013, 07:12:40 PM »
The ammo bunker is easy to destroy because it is a representation of the potential to express force compounded with the representation of the logistics chain of the rebuild time and the strat health. Mighty important object....... Not as the real ww2 immensely hardened concrete blocks they were though.

Have you ever asked yourself why the conundrum of making them look like a harden bunker but, allowing them to be easily destroyed? If something so important to your ability to fight is so easy to destroy, then the obvious answer is, it's a localized by design strategic choke hold object. In a macrocosm you can see in yourselves here how the players of a country would respond to Hitech allowing a bomber driver with a one finger salute kill a country wide choke hold object. It would be by design to enable the rapid winning of the war because the furballing fools didn't want to pay attention to the real arbiters of the game, bombers and their godly one finger salutes. Otherwise, it's suicide weenies and their ability to mow down ord bunkers with BB's.

Instead of giving you strats that choke hold a whole country visa one bomber box. It's been distributed to every field capture object so fights euphemistically can't drag on forever(today's oxymoronically status quo of drag on's). They are easy to destroy by design. And by design you can individually or by group effect the logistics chain. Bomb the strat to increase the down time or resupply the strat to increase the rebuild time. Or drive an M3 several times to affect the local rebuild faster. I know, but we want to shoot people instead of worrying about logistics with our very limited time to play.

How much longer do you want to make fights stall out at a single point on maps? At some point you will be attacking a field to take it. And you would hear on range something like " why the dingdong did Hitech increase the hardness, we are going to be here until next week....what dang fools whined in the forums again".

M3 resupply helps defenders to bring ords back up and stall out fights.
1. - Do you want the number of delivery trips by an M3 increased along with hardening the ord bunker?
2. - Are you telling Hitech that defenders are suffering and need object affect requirements modified to favor defense and the effort required for capture?

You are asking for CM object settings to be changed to affect all player outcomes, besides your personal happiness. Is there really an imbalance at this micro level in the face of your abilities to defend or resupply?

Uhh Bustr, do you speak "CountryBoy" by chance? I take you don't agree with me. :D

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Offline doright

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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2013, 07:33:58 PM »
I have yet to see a furball dissolve because the ords or radar were down.  most fights dont revolve around ords unless players are trying to roll bases.  and if you are rolling bases it hardly encourages fights.

Not every field capture is the a rolling of a horde, not every fight requires a sustained furball. No ords, bombers (except as targets), or capturable bases are required if all that you intend is to furball. A simple map of three 10k bases should suffice. We'll call it Sempville.
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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2013, 08:30:41 PM »
Not every field capture is the a rolling of a horde, not every fight requires a sustained furball. No ords, bombers (except as targets), or capturable bases are required if all that you intend is to furball. A simple map of three 10k bases should suffice. We'll call it Sempville.


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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2013, 05:25:28 PM »
Uhh Bustr, do you speak "CountryBoy" by chance? I take you don't agree with me. :D

Now there is a word I know "dingdong". :devil

Country Boy?

My father's people were share croppers from Alabama. As a simple rule because that life was very hard. They felt it wasn't worth saying anything or starting a fight if you didn't know what you were talking about. Other wise you were looked at as a simple fool who had no worth other than worthless fighting. Turns out my father's people by the 80's had become wealthy following that rule evidenced by the lumber mills and construction companies they founded. Picking cotton to owning companies in 40 years on Sand Mountain, Alabama.

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Offline JimmyD3

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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2013, 09:50:33 AM »
Country Boy?

My father's people were share croppers from Alabama. As a simple rule because that life was very hard. They felt it wasn't worth saying anything or starting a fight if you didn't know what you were talking about. Other wise you were looked at as a simple fool who had no worth other than worthless fighting. Turns out my father's people by the 80's had become wealthy following that rule evidenced by the lumber mills and construction companies they founded. Picking cotton to owning companies in 40 years on Sand Mountain, Alabama.

Yeppers I know "country boy". I'm being the best one I can be.

 :aok Well from one country boy to the next. :cheers: Grew up in central Africa, parents were Baptist Missionaries to the Bayaka tribe in the old Belgian Congo. We had walking water (carried in buckets), a 2 hole outhouse, a mud mortared 4 room house with a grass roof, and the Kwango River for our bath tub/swimming hole. What a life! My brother and I lived the life of Tom Sawyer, fishing, hunting , and trapping, whenever we could get out of the house to run around with our native friends. :banana:
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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2013, 10:03:57 AM »
:airplane: I am glad someone else in this game has noticed those things to Jimmy! Has never made any sense that I could "kill" an ord bunker with .50 cal. There is no question that AH should consider making some adjustments to hangar, ord bunker and "hard gun emplacements", such as 88's. I doubt if a 88 gun pit should go down, same as a soft gun. Not sure the thinking behind that reasoning.

88 gun might not go down but the squishy organic component required for it to work most certainly would, .50AP would do a fair amount of damage to sighting and firing mechanisms, not to mention what it would do to stacked shells :old:
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Re: Target Destruction Requirements for the MA
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2013, 02:58:12 PM »
Country Boy?

My father's people were share croppers from Alabama. As a simple rule because that life was very hard. They felt it wasn't worth saying anything or starting a fight if you didn't know what you were talking about. Other wise you were looked at as a simple fool who had no worth other than worthless fighting. Turns out my father's people by the 80's had become wealthy following that rule evidenced by the lumber mills and construction companies they founded. Picking cotton to owning companies in 40 years on Sand Mountain, Alabama.

Yeppers I know "country boy". I'm being the best one I can be.
:airplane: Then I guess you know where "Flat Rock" Ala is! And maybe Dogwood CC? Have played there many times and still do!
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