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tom666

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To HiThech about price issue
« on: January 27, 2001, 05:40:00 AM »
Well I can`t help it but I have to drag it on.

I was a committed Fighter Ace pilot for about a year.That was the first ,only multiplayer sim i found that could fit my budget.At that time all other games of that sort charged an hourly price,what i could never afford.I flew in AH beta,for a while,and did a free trial when it was 1.1 or so,but the price scared me away.
After a while I got sick of the way FA was run ,and gave AH another chance(I`m glad I did).I decided to move on,and pay the extra 20 bucks a month.The hardest part of it all was leaving my squad in FA.I tryed to bring them over,or even start a AH division of the squad,but they all told me they couldn`t afford to pay triple the price,and obviously they won`t even give it a chance,even they loved the screenshots I sent them.I could have brought a squad of 30 people in.
My point is,I was ,and I know many people are discouraged to even try out AH ,when they find out it cost $30 a month.If it was at least half that price,they`d be pouring in,because this game has so much more to offer than FA ,or any other game of this kind at this moment.i`m not trying to get it cheaper for myself,but to help to get more people ,since that`s what makes this game more fun for all of us.(more drones the better   )

just my 2 cents worth.

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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2001, 07:46:00 AM »
People are discouraged by the price tag on a Dodge Viper.

Some buy it anyway, and have fun with it.

AH is a sport car in a world full of Fiat Punto's.

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Offline Westy

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2001, 08:05:00 AM »
"After a while I got sick of the way FA was run "

 Then why would you wish the same on AH? Don't you think the miniscule $10/mo price for FA (and AW) have something to do with how those games are? You'd have to be blind to think other wise.

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2001, 08:07:00 AM »
well if the price was 15 to 20$ a month i think the rest of the air squad woulda been here too. There are about 10 of them flying active in FA based on the price difference.
They all tried and liked AH but think its to much to pay.
But if 30$ a month is what we have to pay for getting regular udates and bug fixes, and for not saying new versions as often as we do then its worth it  


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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2001, 08:27:00 AM »
htc keep claiming they want as many as possible and $30 is still too much to attract the crowds i think....several of my friends have tried ah(about 6 and only 2 are prepared to pay the sub!) the rest like it but dont want to pay that much.
Anyone here who keeps claiming that $30 is the perfect price:
WHAT ARE YOU MAD??????????

any reduction would be appreciated...some are still paying $20 and ive heard some get it for $10.This is where i have a problem with the pricing.

This is fundamentally WRONG.


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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2001, 08:48:00 AM »
 
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any reduction would be appreciated...some are still paying $20 and ive heard some get it for $10.This is where i have a problem with the pricing.

This is fundamentally WRONG.


hazed

you heard well. I know 4 guys paying 9.95$month, and quite many paying 15$/month.

and there is still no new on a new price...

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2001, 09:31:00 AM »
You get what you pay for...as a Santa example, when I go to buy a car, and compare prices for quality, I know that I'm not going to get a Mecedes Benz for the price of the Ford Tauras on the lot next to it.

Being a small company of only 6 employees, I think $30 a month is a fair price for the enjoyment I get in return.

I can remember buying every new boxed game that came out, an avg. of about $100 a month, on top of my WB's bill which ran an avg. of about $80 a month.

I can sympathize with those who are tight on budget...I can only wish you good fortune for a better job or better life, but in the meantime, if you can't afford to the payments of a Mercedes Benz, then you better drive the Ford Tauras until a day when you can afford it.

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2001, 09:44:00 AM »
I'm paying 360$/Year while some others are paying 120$/Year. That sure wont make me too happy about it.
Some could think I'm stupid  

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »
Comparing this game to an automobole is pointless.  AH is a bunch of code on a computer, nothing more.

With a Mercedes, you are largely paying for the name and prestiege.  I don't think think it's possible to say the same about AH.

I don't blame HTC for charging $30 per month--they charge what the economist among them thinks they ought.  They are a business, and the goal of a business is to make largest profit possible.  However, they are NOT charging that amount because it is a "superior product".  They are charging it because that price is where they make the most money.  

I feel certain that HTC thinks that if they reduce the price, they will end up making less money.  And, if they think that, they're probably right.  This game is their livelihood, and I can't blame them for not wanting to take a pay cut.  Once they think they will make more money with a lower price, then they will reduce the price.

Saying "Ah is a superior product, like a Mercedes" is a good rationalization to pay for the game--but that isn't why the price is set at what it is.

Until I can afford this game, I will be content to participate in these forums.

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2001, 10:17:00 AM »
It IS a superior product. Like Rip, I spent a good deal of money on boxed game, games I got sick of in a month or less.

Then came AH. Not sick of it yet; addiction is growing.

What can upset me is what staga mentioned - I pay $360 a year and some other guys pay $120. Sort of sad, since I dinnae quit - the other dudes did.



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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2001, 10:24:00 AM »
<Lephturn, the grizzled vereran virtual aviator, looks on with mild amusement as a groups of young pilots take turn pounding on the bloated body of a long deceased horse.>

Tom666 wrote:
 
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BTW collision modelling still sucks prettythang

Tom, there is no other reasonable way to do it.  Why don't you make a suggestion as to how it should be done, and I will explain why it won't work.  

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2001, 10:42:00 AM »
Outside PERK POINTS and the not redone B17 engine fairings the "Some Get It Cheaper" deal is one of my pet peeves with AH.

I considered that deal a HUGE kick in the balls to the guys who signed up day one of 1.0 and still do.

That said, until or if WBIII and WWII Online actually become reality forget an across the board reduction.

The resident "bean counter", and rest assured even with only 6 on the payroll they got one, would not be doing his/her job if they let it happen.

Barring an exodus of "30 Buckers" to another sim forget cheaper across the boards rates.

I would love to be 100% wrong on this one.



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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2001, 11:17:00 AM »
$20.00 .... $30.00 .... heck I spend more than that in the snack/soda machines at work each month... sometimes each week!

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2001, 11:27:00 AM »
Tom.
Give it a rest, if the talk that HT gave you in the MA last night while you droned on ad nausuim for an hour about this isnt enought then what is. I want to pay less too, you got your answer. What the hell is anyone here going to add that the man himself didnt say.
Your just going to give yourself a fit.
The question who want to pay less is silly. All but the most ardent chear leaders will say they would rather play and have a new DVD player, then just play for the same price.
The real question is who is willing to quite unless they lower the prices.
I suspect that is answered every month and that HTC is happy with the answer.
I had a freind that was offered the 10 dollar account and imediantly quit again. So the effect of lowering the price is not neccessarily clean cut. Chevy overprices on the Suburban just to keep it exclusive. Is it worth 25000 more then the same frame and engine in a truck? nope. But they want it exclusive. The buyers do too.

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2001, 11:48:00 AM »
er.....yeah but we dont want it exclusive.

I have no problem with $whatever because I think Aces High is better than WB/FA.  But plenty of my mates simply cant afford it.  I'd love to see loadsa more people in here.

Now just for us who weren't in the MA when this went off.......what did HT say?

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