To HiThech about price issue

[Uzzi]

I started playing Warbirds when it came out and was playing up a $200 dollar a month bill on my credit card every month.

30 dollars (buck a day) sounds WONDERFUL to me still to play a game actually better than Warbirds!

[loser111]

you frikken babies, come up to Canada and you can pay over 50 bucks a month!!!! That is exactly what ive been doing for the last 10 months or so.  Yes its quite a slice of cash but who cares, it's worth it.    WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA 30 BUCKS A MONTH WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (btw i know how exchange system works so dont say "you dont understand")

[Sancho]

 

Originally posted by UZZI:
I started playing Warbirds when it came out and was playing up a $200 dollar a month bill on my credit card every month.

30 dollars (buck a day) sounds WONDERFUL to me still to play a game actually better than Warbirds!

Highest I ever spent in Warbirds was $160, but I thought it was worth it then.  Average monthly WB bill for me was around $80.  $30 flat rate in Aces High is a relative bargain.  I'll play forever at this rate.  

[fscott]

Awww... how stupid can it be. $30 a month is $1 per day. Tell your whining friends to forfeit one can of pop per day and then they will be able to "afford" AH So sick of hearing the whiners acting like $30 a month is something they can't "afford". Hogwash... They paying $10 a month now, you can't tell me they couldn't afford an extra 66 cents per day to fly AH. What hogwash... so sick of hearing it.

HT keep the price at $30 a month. Perhaps this will help keep the lowlifes away.

fscott

[tom666]

Tom, there is no other reasonable way to do it.  Why don't you make a suggestion as to how it should be done, and I will explain why it won't work.  

[/B][/QUOTE]

Well,when I crash into another plane I`d like to see the other guy go down too.
Plain and simple.There is no way ,any of those WWII planes could have survived head on collisions,or collisions of any kind for that matter.
I`m not trying to get my kills with ramming in AH,but when i collide ,and I see the dude just fly on from my broken plane ,well that just pisses me off.

[BigJim]

 

Originally posted by Lephturn:
<Lephturn, the grizzled vereran virtual aviator, looks on with mild amusement as a groups of young pilots take turn pounding on the bloated body of a long deceased horse.>

Tom666 wrote:
 Tom, there is no other reasonable way to do it.  Why don't you make a suggestion as to how it should be done, and I will explain why it won't work.    

Hehehe Lep I wonder if you are the same guy back in the AW DOS days who explained why hourly pricing would never go away and why hugh graphics engines required for the likes of WB's and AH wouldn't work  

BigJim

P.S.  I remember those days



[This message has been edited by BigJim (edited 01-27-2001).]

[Westy]

"Well,when I crash into another plane I`d like to see the other guy go down too."

 
 Oh I'm sure. And if we had a universal $10/mo flat rate here I'm sure we'd have a new version of the FighterAce "Rocketeers" here in no time. Sorry. That is not a very well thought out proposition. If I collide I deserve to blow up. Not the other guy and even more so had I intended to collide. Enable it your way and kamikaze attacks will happen ALOT. After all some will say to themselves, "I'm out of ammo, out of fuel and there are alot who say I'll keep that guy from my buddies six, or knock that bomber over my base, by ramming them. After all I can just get a new plane and be go right back up!"
  Why don't you learn to fly better instead of asking for a crutch to compensate for your lack of ability to avoid debri or another persons plane.
 Online flying doesn't have a 1/100th the realism of actual flying, let alone aircombat. Bring on a permanent "death" if you really want to allow collisions like you advocate. Then modell mutual destruction when there is a collision. We'll see how many folks collide, on purpose or accidentally, then.

 Of all the things asked for to be modelled why does someone - usually a newby to collisions - always ask for this?

  -Westy


[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-27-2001).]

[tom666]

WTF?
I did not say I wanna be colliding all over the MA!!!!!!
But when it happens,I want to see both planes go down.That`s it.
BTW them rockets were one of the main reason
I left FA.

[easymo]

 I might buy the "its just code in a computer" thing. If they just left it alone. Like WB. But its upgraded all the time. mmm.... lets see. When was the last time we had an upgrade?  Its been so long I cant remember. I think it was yesterday.

[BigGun]

Figure out the per hour cost of the entertainment you get. Heck, if you fly very little at all it is way less than $1/hour. It is very cheap form of entertainment & much superior to some other games priced at $10.

[Tac]

Tom has a point that people seem to have missed. $30 a month IS a high price in TODAY's internet games. Almost all internet games today are 10 a month or 15 a month. WB and AW are games that are going down really quick today. Why? Because games like AH and WWIIOL, FA and others are offering much cheaper prices and/or are approaching or surpassing AW & WB's quality.

Then we have the problem of numbers. How many people have been scared away from AH just by its price? Would it be fair to say more than 6 times the number of current subscribers? Tom's squad is about 30 people, I know in my own neighborhood about 12 people who would sign up on a snap if AH wasnt so high priced, and god knows how many people they know that would also like to sign up.

I aint no math person, but if with just 2 people here, Tom and I, HTC has already lost 42 costumers due to AH's price... how much money are they losing vs. what they would be gaining? Not to mention that I am not a full-year subscriber.. I cant afford to pay 30 a month every month.. I am in for 2 months, out for 2 months, etc.

So thats... 60 bucks per month from Tom and I... compared to the 630 bucks they would be getting from tom's squad and my friends (priced at $15). Count in how many squads are in AH that have dozens upon dozens of squaddies that would be in AH if it wasnt for the price tag...

I dont see any merits to some people saying that the price tag keeps the riff raff away.. remember, YOU were riff raff once. HTC is not in bussiness to uphold your elitist ego, they are here to make money. In my view, a price reduction would bring HTC a lot of income..but also some more expenses. However, there are hundreds of sponsors out there that could be giving HTC cash to advertise in the HTC website, or something like that.

I love this game. The 30 a month is a real sting in my wallet, but I can afford to scratch every 2 months. Not everyone has a $25 per hour job and no debts to pay you know  

[Hobodog]

Think about it this way Sam's the walmart subsidary is a Wholesale(i mean true wholesale) supplier but it ahs a store. My point is that there are so many people who buy stuff there its profitable to sell things at low prices. As the AH planeset and quality groes the number people wiling to pay 30 dollars(i do not use the term for male deer to mean dollars) will grow with the quality and as more join the price will go down be cause HTC will hit a point where they can make the amount of money they want while lowering prices the people who are scraed to go in at 30 will go in at say 20. or they coulkd sell a discounted per year basis.

       Get what im saying?

[Dago]

I have no problem with $30 a month.  Compared to what we paid for WB, it is a bargain.

One big problem with a lower price is all the jerky dweebs will play it. Those who cant afford $30 should get a job, or a second job so they are not so cash strapped, and not be spending their spare time playing online games anyway!  

Seriously, HTC needs to operate at a profit, they are not a non-profit company like IEN has been.

This game could be considered a premium online game in my opinion, and if someone wants to play it, they will have to pay the price.

Dago

[J_A_B]

"Awww... how stupid can it be. $30 a month is $1 per day. Tell your whining friends to forfeit one can of pop per day and then they will be able to "afford" AH So sick of hearing the whiners acting like $30 a month is something they can't "afford". Hogwash... They paying $10 a month now, you can't tell me they couldn't afford an extra 66 cents per day to fly AH. What hogwash... so sick of hearing it. "

Apparently you have never been a college student working a full-time job on the side to pay for it.   Apparently you have never had to worry about making ends meet, where $30 a month DOES make a difference.  There have been plenty of times for me that $30 meant the difference between having my electric shut off.

If you have the money, I am glad for you.  But don't forget that not everybody is equally well off.  For a lot of people, $30 is a signifigant sum.  For the Canadians, $50 is even more of a burden.

You should put yourself in the other guy's shoes before needlessly flaming someone.

J_A_B

[BigJim]

 

Originally posted by Westy:

  Why don't you learn to fly better instead of asking for a crutch to compensate for your lack of ability to avoid debri or another persons plane.
 Online flying doesn't have a 1/100th the realism of actual flying, let alone aircombat. Bring on a permanent "death" if you really want to allow collisions like you advocate. Then modell mutual destruction when there is a collision. We'll see how many folks collide, on purpose or accidentally, then.

 Of all the things asked for to be modelled why does someone - usually a newby to collisions - always ask for this?

  -Westy


[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-27-2001).]

LOL Westy you mean this is just a "GAME"  
while I agree with you on that point I don't agree that you can always avoid some of the "lag induced" things that happen in this "game" just because you are a great virtual pilot.  I missed Dales explanation of the "great pricing debacule" so won't go into that fax paus.