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Re: Cap1,WEZEL, ford truck u-joints
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2013, 05:27:58 PM »
genuinely curious CAP1, which part of the VR38 does ford come in to play? I have always had a thing for GTR's (I have had 2 r32 Skyline GTR's)

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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2013, 05:38:03 PM »
Crap forgot all about those shafts,only did one and pressed it out like normal....self cleaning stakes lol.

Want to hear a most excellent  Ford idea.......the Fusion, Escape and a couple of other of new model year vech, you have to take the doors off to take the dash board out  :bhead  There is an 11 inch bolt that holds the dash frame in and is part of the side impact protection. Had to do a evap core on a brand new escape a month ago and wile the car was apart the customer came in and wanted to get his m3 player out of the console and he nearly passed out when he saw his brand new car with 700 miles on it tore apart like that, all I could do was shrug and say "Fords better idea"   :rolleyes:

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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2013, 05:40:41 PM »
How about having to remove the cab to work on the engine? Now that's progressive thinking.
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2013, 05:44:23 PM »
Thats a smart move too  :bhead when the 6.0 came out and the first 2 I ever saw had to be pushed off the car carrier and I had to put high pressure pumps in them my days of fixing diesels was done right then and there, have not touched one since.

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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2013, 05:45:47 PM »
i would have passed that evap core to another mechanic....unless it paid gold.
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2013, 12:37:24 AM »
i would have passed that evap core to another mechanic....unless it paid gold.

Cap that job only paid 7.2 hrs, I have been working for Ford for almost 28 years now and they cut our times on doing a job on a daily basis. Ten years ago you could work a good pace for half a day lean on your tool box for the rest of the day and still make 10-12 hrs, now we have to bust our butt's for 8 hrs and we are lucky if we make 8. Times have changed big time, we have to do a huge amount of training 95% of it is web based [1-3 hrs a class] that we do at home on our own time with no pay just to stay certified. I dont know how it is with other manufacturers but Ford tech's are dropping like fly's  and no new blood is coming in, in another 10 years there will be no one left to fix the cheap hunks of junk Ford pushes off on the public as quality product. I could go on forever about how ford just keep cutting our throats wile they keep posting record earnings, it's sad to be a tech for Ford in today's world.

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Re: Cap1,WEZEL, ford truck u-joints
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2013, 11:39:39 AM »
Cap that job only paid 7.2 hrs, I have been working for Ford for almost 28 years now and they cut our times on doing a job on a daily basis. Ten years ago you could work a good pace for half a day lean on your tool box for the rest of the day and still make 10-12 hrs, now we have to bust our butt's for 8 hrs and we are lucky if we make 8. Times have changed big time, we have to do a huge amount of training 95% of it is web based [1-3 hrs a class] that we do at home on our own time with no pay just to stay certified. I dont know how it is with other manufacturers but Ford tech's are dropping like fly's  and no new blood is coming in, in another 10 years there will be no one left to fix the cheap hunks of junk Ford pushes off on the public as quality product. I could go on forever about how ford just keep cutting our throats wile they keep posting record earnings, it's sad to be a tech for Ford in today's world.

7.2 for that????? that's nuts. i don't think i've seen anything new....other than cars like the cavalier, and the old ford fox bodies......with less time than about 10 hours. i did a chrysler sebring i think it was.......almost 14 hours on that friggin heap.

 i have a customer with an old windstar. 3.8 liter. his son called me from va, saying it was running rough, what should he do? i told him to take it by a local shop, have it diagnosed, and call me. whelp...he took it to a goodyear, and got assraped for almost $900. the cel was back on by the time he got back to nj....and still running rough. they took it to a local goodyear(due to warranty), where they were told that once the cel's been cleared, they needed to take it to a ford dealer to have the puter reprogrammed. he took it to a local ford dealer(1/4 mile from my shop), where they told him that he needed a new engine. at this point, the kids father stepped in, and got me on the phone. when they tested the misfire at the dealer, they found #1 dead, and #4 i think it was to be very weak. that's when they told him engine.

 i'm thinking you already know what was wrong with it....but it wasn't an engine.......
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Re: Cap1,WEZEL, ford truck u-joints
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2013, 12:03:27 PM »
^ I have heard of Canadian tire trying to scam people who don't know better into buying a new engine when its a minor problem, what ended up being the problem with the van cap? plugs?

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Re: Cap1,WEZEL, ford truck u-joints
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2013, 02:32:27 PM »
genuinely curious CAP1, which part of the VR38 does ford come in to play? I have always had a thing for GTR's (I have had 2 r32 Skyline GTR's)

 the engine block. it's a wire arc process that makes the cylinder just as strong as a sleeved cylinder, but it saves about 40 pounds on the weight of the block.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_transferred_wire_arc_thermal_spraying
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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2013, 02:50:09 PM »
what ended up being the problem with the van cap? plugs?
plugs or plug wires?
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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2013, 02:51:41 PM »

 i'm thinking you already know what was wrong with it....but it wasn't an engine.......


Does the part that fixed it start with a "C" lol

Horror shows go both ways sometimes dealers are no better that a bad independent shop. I bet we could share some story's that would make people ditch their car go back to riding horses again  :devil

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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2013, 03:18:40 PM »
the engine block. it's a wire arc process that makes the cylinder just as strong as a sleeved cylinder, but it saves about 40 pounds on the weight of the block.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_transferred_wire_arc_thermal_spraying
ah I never realised ford was the company that developed plasma coating cool info

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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2013, 03:21:03 PM »
^ I have heard of Canadian tire trying to scam people who don't know better into buying a new engine when its a minor problem, what ended up being the problem with the van cap? plugs?
plugs or plug wires?

Does the part that fixed it start with a "C" lol

Horror shows go both ways sometimes dealers are no better that a bad independent shop. I bet we could share some story's that would make people ditch their car go back to riding horses again  :devil

it was plugged EGR ports. this engine has a single egr port in the intake runner for each cylinder. when you remove the upper plenum, it looks like there's fuel injectors sticking out, pointing up.
 what had happened, was that all ports 'cept #1 were plugged. by them plugging up, now all the recirculated gases are being fed to only 1 cylinder, effectively putting out the fire in there.
 when the ford tech got the van, he simply ran the cylinder power balance test through the scanner. he'd never taken the time to run a physical compression test on that, or any other cylinder. by skipping that single step, he screwed himself. when i saw the report that they gave the customer, i duplicated the problem, scanned for codes, then compression checked that cylinder, and only one other to verify good compression....#1 was around 150 cranking. after that, i just started looking for sources thart could kill a known good cylinder, and found the egr to be the culprit.

 i gotta say, the dude was happy to not have to buy a new van or engine....
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Re: Cap1,WEZEL, ford truck u-joints
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2013, 03:22:22 PM »
ah I never realised ford was the company that developed plasma coating cool info
  they didnt develop it alone......but they did perfect it. hell...they had to get something right besides the mustang sooner or later, right?
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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2013, 04:15:01 PM »
A lot of ford techs don't know the first year you could get the 300 inline six with sequential injection.