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Offline alpini13

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AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« on: August 31, 2013, 12:00:06 PM »
 AN AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER WOULD BE NICE NOW  before anymore fighters.   JU-52  or SM-82(kangaroo)  both historicaly used in large numbers by the germans,the italians,and other axis countries in ww2,  simply have them armed as a bomber and unarmed as a troop or supply transport.

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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 12:17:13 PM »
We have one.

L2D 'Tabby'.

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As to the actual content, Ju52, sure, but keep it armed.  Makes a choice, fast and unarmed or slow and armed.

No to the SM.82 as it simply removes the C-47 from play.
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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 01:20:45 PM »
AN AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER WOULD BE NICE NOW  before anymore fighters.   JU-52  or SM-82(kangaroo)  both historicaly used in large numbers by the germans,the italians,and other axis countries in ww2,  simply have them armed as a bomber and unarmed as a troop or supply transport.
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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 01:46:08 PM »
Ju52 is a much needed plane for scenarios only.... However it would see NO use in the main arenas. Not when the C-47 is available.

Ju52 TOP speed is about 145-150 mph. That's TOP speed. Average cruising was about 100. Landing/stall speed was probably around down to 60 mph.

Compare to the 230mph of the C-47 and nobody would take Ju52. Heck, you'd get there faster in M3s than you would in Junkers'!

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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 01:48:23 PM »
Ju52 is a much needed plane for scenarios only....

Good enough for me.  :D

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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 02:15:47 PM »
There is almost always a better/faster/cooler aircraft but some of us, as part of our gameplay make choices.  One of the choices JG11 makes is we only fly Luftwaffe aircraft, so you would see us in it in the MA.  Just as an example sirs <S>.

(Note:sometimes JG11 will be assaigned other than Luftwaffe aircraft for FSO's and you will see us run a few sorties in the FSO aircraft in the MA prior to the event.)
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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 02:20:07 PM »
There is almost always a better/faster/cooler aircraft but some of us, as part of our gameplay make choices.  One of the choices JG11 makes is we only fly Luftwaffe aircraft, so you would see us in it in the MA.  Just as an example sirs <S>.

(Note:sometimes JG11 will be assaigned other than Luftwaffe aircraft for FSO's and you will see us run a few sorties in the FSO aircraft in the MA prior to the event.)

Same reason we take the blue-skinned C-47 when called upon for such duties. Represent even when not flying the squadron bird.  :salute :cheers:

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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 02:22:45 PM »
Ju52 TOP speed is about 145-150 mph.
I show 165 at top speed.  Deck would probably be something like 140 or 145.

Some people would take it because it has guns and in the mission profile where the C-47 has to loiter the speed in transit matter less.

That said, I'd guess about a 80/20 to 90/10 ratio of C-47 to Ju52 use.
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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 02:28:16 PM »
I show 165 at top speed.  Deck would probably be something like 140 or 145.

Some people would take it because it has guns and in the mission profile where the C-47 has to loiter the speed in transit matter less.

That said, I'd guess about a 80/20 to 90/10 ratio of C-47 to Ju52 use.

It will be used as a prime example of a plane that never gets used at all no matter how much it gets used.  :)

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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 02:31:01 PM »
+1 on the JU 52 but would still like to see a few other things first! 
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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2013, 02:31:33 PM »
Was looking for something with comparable performance to the C-47.

Ki-56 "Thalia". 121 built.

Half the weight of the C-47 and half the troop carrying capacity. Almost identical service ceiling but the Ki-56 has a worse climb rate (less-powerful engines). Top speed about 20 mph faster than the C-47.





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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2013, 02:33:20 PM »
Was looking for something with comparable performance to the C-47.

Ki-56 "Thalia". 121 built.

Half the weight of the C-47 and half the troop carrying capacity. Almost identical service ceiling but the Ki-56 has a worse climb rate (less-powerful engines). Top speed about 20 mph faster than the C-47.

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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 02:35:23 PM »
Hey! I see ten troops!  ;)

It could actually squeeze in 14!
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 03:03:11 PM »
It could actually squeeze in 14!
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Re: AXIS TRANSPORT / BOMBER
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2013, 03:10:47 PM »
There is almost always a better/faster/cooler aircraft but some of us, as part of our gameplay make choices.  One of the choices JG11 makes is we only fly Luftwaffe aircraft, so you would see us in it in the MA.  Just as an example sirs <S>.

(Note:sometimes JG11 will be assaigned other than Luftwaffe aircraft for FSO's and you will see us run a few sorties in the FSO aircraft in the MA prior to the event.)

how often do you guys take the sdkf 251?



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