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Offline artik

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Air-to-Air paintball
« on: September 01, 2013, 04:19:30 AM »
I had seen some loooooooooong time ago a program about a type of game in US - sort of paintball.

1. Use real planes with a flight instructor aside you so you wouldn't crash
2. Use lasers for scoring a hits - or something like that.


You pay, get some instructions and than go to A2A battle - most important open to general public.

- Does such things exist yet?
- Anybody can point me to such stuff?
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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2013, 04:24:28 AM »
sure does google "air combat USA" :aok

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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2013, 05:55:33 AM »
sure does google "air combat USA" :aok

Wow.... it is true...

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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2013, 11:36:48 AM »
sure does google "air combat USA" :aok
But what about the cost? ANd Flight models/damage models :noid
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 12:51:54 PM »
But what about the cost? ANd Flight models/damage models :noid
Give them a call and ask.  Please let us know what you find out.



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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 01:48:55 PM »
Keep in mind that their business model took a huge hit after some high profile accidents.  T-34 wings were shedding at about 3-3.5Gs due to undetected corrosion if I recall correctly.  I think nowadays they focus on corporate events, but I might be wrong.

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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 02:01:11 PM »
sure does google "air combat USA" :aok

Pilot height limit 6'6" ....  :bhead

Not that I would be able to afford it anyway  ;)
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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 02:08:31 PM »
some one on here I thought had flown A2A there last year or somthing :headscratch:  dot remember, but I thought so.  looks like a blast though :aok

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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2013, 02:11:53 PM »
Keep in mind that their business model took a huge hit after some high profile accidents.  T-34 wings were shedding at about 3-3.5Gs due to undetected corrosion if I recall correctly.  I think nowadays they focus on corporate events, but I might be wrong.

Wow...

Can you put some references to NTSB investigation?

Have the pilot/trainee survived - (AFAIK any aerobatics require the crew to be stripped to a parachute)?
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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2013, 02:16:34 PM »
some one on here I thought had flown A2A there last year or somthing :headscratch:  dot remember, but I thought so.  looks like a blast though :aok

There's a few, I believe. This one is from awhile back (word searched): http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,48637.msg436700.html#msg436700

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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 04:50:39 PM »
There is an outfit at Williams Gateway outside Phoenix the does this with Extra 300s, a much more robust and capable aircraft.



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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 07:47:54 PM »
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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »
Wow...

Can you put some references to NTSB investigation?

Have the pilot/trainee survived - (AFAIK any aerobatics require the crew to be stripped to a parachute)?

It was several years ago (like 10 maybe), but over the space of 2 or 3 years in that particular industry there were at least 2 fatal mishaps from structural failures.  Sorry, I don't have any links to news reports since it was so long ago.  I vaguely remember that there were some ADs for beech bonanza wing spars that maybe should have applied to T-34s regarding wing spars, but maybe they didn't get done on the T-34s due to construction differences or something?  In any case, there was a slew of finger pointing and insurance rates went up, and next thing you know they're just not advertising much any more.  I contacted one outfit a year ago to see if they were hiring, and was told that they were low volume and due to liability issues they were doing corporate team building gigs, where they'd sell a package deal to a company and have a dozen or more people come out all at once for a day of flying.

Maybe Mouse could give you the real story since I think he's a lot closer to that business...  This is just what I heard and pieced together from the news reports and hearing this and that over the last several years.

My Dad flew with one of the outfits using SF-260s before the mishaps, and he had a blast until he started puking.  I don't think any of the outfits flying SF-260s ever had any mishaps but it wouldn't surprise me if they got caught up in the insurance rate increases anyhow.
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Re: Air-to-Air paintball
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 10:32:00 PM »
Prices :O
http://aircombat.com/program-prices/

Looks like SF-260s.  Good planes from what I've been told.  Back when my Dad got his flight, the basic package was around $500.
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