Author Topic: What's going on?  (Read 3423 times)

Offline R4M

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« on: August 21, 2001, 04:19:00 PM »
Since day one of the CT I've been here. Numbers have been higher or lower, but at this hour there always were 10-30 ppl in it.

well now for 2 days in a row, there is NOONE there. None, nada, nil, zero.
I see this forum with lots of messages of people that "it rocks, is great,is..".etc etc etc

But there is noone there.

I go into the MA and I find that one says that he is tired of fighting 25% fuel spitfires, other says that there is no strategy because no goons, other says that few ppl...

25% fuel spitfires are going point defence. Get over it.

Goons are not in CT and I hope they never are. In WWII, apart of Crete there was no massive airborne operation with any significance. And for sure a single C47 with 10 paratroopers didnt make a front advance 25miles

Numbers are low because ppl dont get in. First step to raise them?...log in.


So, people here is REALLY hypocrital, or they are plainly idiots. I still have to find ANYONE who said that the MA feels beter than the CT.Everyone who flew my missions (in LW side or on RAF side) said that it was a blast, that the CT rocked and that WTG and all that stuff.

 But at this same moment there are 140 people in the MA and 0 in the CT.

SO: ...people lie when they say is a blast, or people is completely idiot because they log in in an arena they said "is less fun". compared with the CT.

 I'm not flying in the MA, less now that I felt what a proper HA can be. I see people who has yelled, cried ,begged, ad nauseam to HTC to put a HA in this game, and when they get the damned arena they dont log in because "there are no goons".

I really think that many of such people who asked for a HA were just what they were called: A BUNCH OF USELESS WHINERS!.

Really I feel very very dissapointed with many of the people I thought wanted an HA. Not that it matters a lot. But after begging for so much for an HA ,after yelling for 2 years that the MA sucks and that is boring, and dweebery place, etc...the less you could do IS TO LOG IN AND FLY IN THE fediddleIN HISTORICAL ARENA!.   :mad:

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2001, 04:21:00 PM »
You'll win so much support with that one....

Anyway, people go where the numbers are. 1 person isn't going to go to an arena with 10 people in it when an arena with 100+ people is sitting right there.

I can't fault them either, HA is totally scripted. Been there, done that. It's fun, but not 24/7.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2001, 04:27:00 PM »
I dont care wether I win support or not. It is simply that so many people crying for an HA for 2 years, now they get it and they dont log in...

Live to see. What a bunch of tards  :(

About the people thing, look, is simple: I log in even when there is just ONE guy online. Why? because I'd rather fly a H2H with historical matchups than to fly in the FFA MA.

For 2 years people have said that they would log into the HA even when there were low numbers. Seems that the only one saying that seriously was me.

Whatever it is, it sucks  :(

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2001, 04:49:00 PM »
Most people wanted the MA to be turned into an HA.  Very few people believed that an HA would be fully populated if ran beside an MA.

Truth be told.. the CT is not that different than the MA.  Base captures have been removed and there's a limited plane set.  Icons and dar are different.  Other than that.. little has changed.

People still up from the two nearest bases and engage in low alt furballs until they are killed.  There is pretty much just one area where any kind of fighting is taking place.  There is still lone wolfing, gang-banging, ack-running, running, HO'ing and everything else that people swore an HA would solve.

As for never hearing a discouraging word about the CT... I'd have to disagree with you on that.  I've seen several people type out "this isn't any different than the MA... except it has less people" then leave.  I've even been seeing the occasional "I'm tired of fighting against the same aircraft" messages popping up.

People are trying to change things there.  Planned missions and various other immersive actions are occuring.  But these are rare... the furball rules.

Maybe a strat system will be implimented that promotes some sort of historical scenario and according behavior.  Until then, we just have a map and aircraft.  That's not enough for some people to want to leave the numbers.

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2001, 04:55:00 PM »
I don't have time to play computer games every day.  2-3 times a week is the best I can do.  Every time I have tried the CT during "prime time" (evenings US time) there have been 20-40 players.  *Shrugs*

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2001, 05:36:00 PM »
I don't know about other players, but this is my opinion of the 'Combat Theater':

It's the MA without the ability to capture fields or otherwise influence the front lines and simply has a stripped down planeset with a LOT less players.

I was one of those people that was pretty vocal this would happen. I was repeatedly told I was wrong or other such nonsense.


Well here we are today... and I REALLY hate being "wrong".   :D
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2001, 05:41:00 PM »
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Originally posted by SWulfe:
has a stripped down planeset with a LOT less players.


I dont care about more or less players. I can have a bunch of fun with just 10 ppl online.

What I DO care is to see people who were crying for an HA in the boards. Who yelled, asked, begged, for an Historical Arena, flying in the MA ,while the HA is almost empty.

I call that "Hypocrits".

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2001, 05:46:00 PM »
RAM, at the time of day u posted this, all of North America is still at work, or only just getting out of work, 5:20pm EST

Do the math

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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2001, 05:47:00 PM »
They wanted this "HA" concept to replace the MA, like WarBirds.

To that I replied, "Why not fly WarBirds?" and was told "I like Aces High better!"

Turns out they like the idea of Aces High changing the MA into simply an axis versus allies concept.

But you ARE right about those jackholes who were so vocal about getting an HA all but vanished from the face of the planet once it was up.

I haven't heard the cries for the HA, reason is we have one now... nor have I seen the HA break 30 people or have that number more than 1 night a week when I login.

Disheartening? Yup, that's when I go to the MA.

For me, historical setups will stay in the events... seems it's the only time I can find the ones that want events setup to replicate history anyway....
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2001, 06:00:00 PM »
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Originally posted by SKurj:
RAM, at the time of day u posted this, all of North America is still at work, or only just getting out of work, 5:20pm EST

Do the math

SKurj


last 2 weeks, at this same hour there used to be 20-40 ppl online. Euros mostly but also some US guys.

Hour is not something that matters here. Less when 140 guys were in the MA when I posted that message.

right now we are 25 there. A good number, and I have had lots of fun. But just 1 hour ago there was NONE, while many of the self proclaimed "HA-lovers" were in the MA killing n1K2s in the meantime...and they still are there...hypocrits...

I dont complain about the low numbers. With 20 I have enough to have a bunch of fun. What I complain is about hte people who filled their mouth with "I will get into the HA even if there is noone there", but who now are in the MA.

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2001, 10:37:00 PM »
NOTAM:
Guys don't take the bait.  There are some people on this UBB who live for arguments and negativity.  Let's ignore the hot air and keep this forum on topic.  <S>

Offline Regurge

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2001, 11:11:00 PM »
Well, about 2 days ago the MA reset from the lake map to Mindanao. That might have something to do with it.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2001, 12:36:00 AM »
IMO 20-40 people is a good number for the CT at this point.  
I will fly it as long as there are that many or more.
When it drops to 5 or so, I go to the MA and try and enlist pilots.

IMO the CT is a great place to fly.  There is truth to the statement that it's similar to the MA except for dar and icons, etc..
but that's enough !!  

To me, that's what was missing from the MA.
(missing???... well. you know what I mean)

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2001, 12:41:00 AM »
Been in CT its really aweseome when at least 4 people are in it.. wingman tactics.. and even better when a planned out mission takes place.(with obvouisly more people  :D )

I started a Raid on London flyin LW it was a blast, had around 6 bombers.. and only 3 escort fighters.. But was still fun.. and quasi historical.

Just need more of a strategice element.. perhaps set goals that could be established for a given map. Say Allies have to Hit geramn factories, and intercepts must take place.. Who knows.. I think its way to early to determine whether or not the CA is a bad/wasted resource.

let it mature... maybe 1.08 will add some interesting ideas..

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2001, 01:41:00 AM »
diddly off RAM.

Djust before you came in whining in the MA we indeed was 10 ppl in the CA.

And if you are so stupid to take festers comment (or mine for that matter) serious then your mental, pls take an look at his score/sortie number in the CA and you will understand what i mean.

Personaly i have wanted this for an long time, thats true but i wont 'feel guilty' because im in the MA from time to time to have simple mindless fun when i want to (afterall the p51 aint in CA yet, and i need my fix badly from time to time).

If the numbers in the weekdays keep on staying in they low teens then i have to say i will be flying more in the MA on the weekdays and then on the weekends when i have more time to devote and i can play later in the night when the US are awake ill be in the CA.

Shit man give it time, we allredy shown to HTC that there is an interest in CA...

Lets see how this new RPS change will effect things.

Oh almost forgot i only signed up again like an week ago, and i do find that the MA provides good fun (not burned out anymore), as i get tired of the MA furballing in the future i surely will spend more and more time in CA.

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