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Offline Drane

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ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« on: September 11, 2013, 03:13:56 PM »
oh what fun it would be to blow more stuff up  :t
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Re: ground vehicle with mines that we can lay. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 03:15:08 PM »
you think there are gv whines now, put down anti-tank mines...
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 05:47:01 PM »
GV'ers always take the shortest route between point A and point B because it takes so long to get anywhere. Mines would get the GV'ers to take the routes out on the flank, the areas less traveled. It would add to the game.
Good idea. I hope HiTech will consider it. Spawn campers would be very careful where they parked.  :D

The vehicles for delivery would be the M-3, Sd.Kfz.251, and the Jeep. How 'bout the M-8 as well? Each vehicles would carry a different load out. Mines last 15-30 minutes after deployment. Invisible to the enemy or there would be a marker only visible to friendlies.


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Re: ground vehicle with mines that we can lay. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 06:11:38 PM »
you think there are gv whines now, put down anti-tank mines...

Yes, I think I will whine a bit about this one.  

Perhaps it sounds cool from the mine-layer's perspective, but it does add what is essentially a random chance of being destroyed/disabled for the intended victims.  So, from their perspective, it would be kind of frustrating.  Depending on where they are laid, I can see this as being a major griefing mechanism.  For example, what if you walled off a VBase or spawn point?  Or laid them at the crest of a hill where GVs like to perch (like that one in OzKansas to the north of the central area)?  Many of the best GVing locations have a fairly limited set of travel routes.  What if you induced an enemy to chase you, and laid mines in his path?  Etc.

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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 10:06:54 PM »
Spawn campers would be very careful where they parked.
the spawn campers would just lay mines on the spawns...unless htc changes the way spawn points work, no thanks.
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 10:52:30 AM »
An interesting idea on the surface, but in addition to the objections already listed, there are practical reasons for not using these in an MMO.  Think of the comm hit this could cause?  Even if you made them time-limited, this would be a huge drag on the network traffic.  Also, if you add something like this, you must also add the counter to it, i.e. mine-clearing operations.  Otherwise, it would be like adding submarines to the game but not anti-submarine warfare elements like sonar and depth charges.  Mines were typically used as a static defense, where everyone on the laying side was supposed to know the extent of the mine belt and the safe lanes through them; still it was not at all atypical for friendly casualties to result.  That probability would be much higher in AH, I would think.  While land mines (and sea mines) were a historically significant aspect of WWII combat, I don't think they lend themselves well to our sim world.  Someday, perhaps, but not at present.  A applaud your courage in suggesting it, however. :salute
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 11:00:18 AM »
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 01:15:21 PM »
Bad idea. 

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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 03:01:04 PM »
     I'm against anything that you can dump into an area, then remove yourself from any chance of
danger and still get "kills".  The mines would be semi-magikal as the terrain doesn't give you the visual
cues that might enable you to avoid them.  Also as mentioned there are no mine clearing methods
available either..other than the most basic..land on it..BOOM, cleared.   :rolleyes:

     Certainly be alot more fun for the layer than the layee and the griefing potential is enormous with
even the smallest amount of effort used.
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 05:09:23 PM »
GV'ers always take the shortest route between point A and point B because it takes so long to get anywhere. Mines would get the GV'ers to take the routes out on the flank, the areas less traveled. It would add to the game.
Good idea. I hope HiTech will consider it. Spawn campers would be very careful where they parked.  :D

The vehicles for delivery would be the M-3, Sd.Kfz.251, and the Jeep. How 'bout the M-8 as well? Each vehicles would carry a different load out. Mines last 15-30 minutes after deployment. Invisible to the enemy or there would be a marker only visible to friendlies.


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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 08:34:58 PM »
Only if they can be detected and countered.

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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 06:24:04 PM »
I like to have ship-mines so CV can not go so close it can use its 5" against planes over field.
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 07:58:59 AM »
I like to have ship-mines so CV can not go so close it can use its 5" against planes over field.

oh that was requested in this wish:  :D

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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2013, 05:29:28 AM »
-1 to any type of mines. They are a pita in fps games and would probably be here too.
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Re: ground vehicle that we can lay mines with. maybe jeeps?
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2013, 08:06:09 AM »
 Mine fields are a great tool for anti tank warfare. Not just when a tank runs over a mine but also to funnel them into a killing zone where you have set up anti tank guns. Mines can protect your flanks when fighting out numbers and slows or denies assess to roads. I was trained in land mine warfare fighting armor as Infantry with mine and tank traps. I was an instructor in a school called, To Catch A Tank at Ft. Polk LA for a time. However I am not sure land mine warfare is for Aces High. I do think HTC is missing a big market by not developing a Tank arena like WoT since tank play in Aces High is already superior to WoT.