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Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« on: September 23, 2013, 12:21:09 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muYFZVj-kDY

A scifi animated short by Kaleb Lechowski. If would be awesome as a tv series or feature film.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 12:28:51 PM »
i'd watch that...very cool.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 05:55:27 PM »
I thought it was pretty much like that, minus the extra arms and weird head/face with skin flaps.

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 07:23:00 PM »
... and plus whiny humans and their silly interpersonal idiosyncrasies coupled with overt religious and political commentary.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 07:25:23 PM »
... and plus whiny humans and their silly interpersonal idiosyncrasies coupled with overt religious and political commentary.

You kidding? Starbuck kicked arse.  :D

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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 08:18:24 PM »
Yes she did. I was more interested in the back bridge-talker though... At least until she gave her sidearm a blowjob over a lovers quarrel. The Korean Raptor chick was great too. That series began so great and had such potential.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 01:50:28 PM »
... and plus whiny humans and their silly interpersonal idiosyncrasies coupled with overt religious and political commentary.

isn't that considered character development?  don't get me wrong, some could have been better, but I thought the series kicked..
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 02:05:07 PM »
It definitely kicked until the last season, when they tried to sum up the entire story and realized that much of what they had done in the name of good drama made no sense whatsoever. The "Final Five" story is filled with holes big enough to drive a battlestar through, and the ending flew in the face of common sense (anyone living on Earth 50000 years ago with nothing but the most basic tools is lining up to be cat food...that was seriously our role in life back than, and the reason we invented Tender Vittles to take our place). Furthermore, the final fate of the characters is incredibly sad: they all got wiped out, with only Hera's genetic pool surviving, and even *she* died at a young age.

It just goes to show what happens when you write a storyline-heavy series without any idea of how it's going to end.


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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 02:14:07 PM »
isn't that considered character development?  don't get me wrong, some could have been better, but I thought the series kicked..
only they were as developed as an embryo...they went terminator meets all my children on the entire story.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 03:49:11 PM »
I really disliked when they turned it into psudo-Iraq with a human insurgency and suicide bombers on New Caprica.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 03:51:58 PM »
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(anyone living on Earth 50000 years ago with nothing but the most basic tools is lining up to be cat food...that was seriously our role in life back than, and the reason we invented Tender Vittles to take our place). Furthermore, the final fate of the characters is incredibly sad: they all got wiped out, with only Hera's genetic pool surviving, and even *she* died at a young age.

It was actually based on sound science, and it was 150,000 years ago. Not 50,000. 150,000 to 200,000 years ago the upright walking man, called Homo Erectus, began diverging into the animal who became modern man, called Homo Sapien, which all of us are. There actually was a Mitochondrial Eve, a single female who gave birth to children and established a gene pool that evolved into modern man. http://io9.com/5878996/how-mitochondrial-eve-connected-all-humanity-and-rewrote-human-evolution

Say what you want about the series or the ending, and believe me I loved both, but one cant argue the ending was make believe. It WAS based on actual science which can be proved by DNA analysis. BTW somehow the critter who became modern man really DID survive with only basic tools. Or no tools.

With all the lousy endings of series I found BSGs both fitting and beautiful. Yeah it was sad when Starbuck flew away as an Angel but at least she had lived life pretty well and banged 1/2 the fleet.

I didnt like how Sci Fy handled "Caprica" and it really pissed me off when they didnt pick up "Blood and Chrome". I thought that series had more of a future to it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2013, 03:58:55 PM »
oh come one Rich, that "science" has yet to explain how advanced people appeared to have gone backwards rather than progressed further at some stage in the supposed "evolution". we must all be mutations generated from inbreeding...


blood and chrome did look promising...i thought it was a good chance to delve deeper into the original storyline. i'm guessing between bsg and caprica, they lost enough fans blood and chrome wouldn't have been worthwhile.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2013, 04:01:39 PM »
Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome looked  good, to bad they dint run with it :rock

http://screenrant.com/battlestar-galactica-blood-chrome-online-webseries-episodes/

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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 04:03:20 PM »
Nm...
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Re: Battlestar Galactica - How it should have been...
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2013, 04:22:52 PM »
It was actually based on sound science, and it was 150,000 years ago. Not 50,000. 150,000 to 200,000 years ago the upright walking man, called Homo Erectus, began diverging into the animal who became modern man, called Homo Sapien, which all of us are. There actually was a Mitochondrial Eve, a single female who gave birth to children and established a gene pool that evolved into modern man. http://io9.com/5878996/how-mitochondrial-eve-connected-all-humanity-and-rewrote-human-evolution

Say what you want about the series or the ending, and believe me I loved both, but one cant argue the ending was make believe. It WAS based on actual science which can be proved by DNA analysis. BTW somehow the critter who became modern man really DID survive with only basic tools. Or no tools.

With all the lousy endings of series I found BSGs both fitting and beautiful. Yeah it was sad when Starbuck flew away as an Angel but at least she had lived life pretty well and banged 1/2 the fleet.

I didnt like how Sci Fy handled "Caprica" and it really pissed me off when they didnt pick up "Blood and Chrome". I thought that series had more of a future to it.

I stand corrected on the date, but the thing is, we did not develop much in the way of tool sets during that time, which is kind of what you'd expect if  20 000 humans with advanced knowledge arrived. Even if they had only developed simple things like pottery, the bow, or basic metallurgy, the effect would have been staggering at the time. The mitochondrial eve idea, which is based on science, would support the hypothesis that Hera's ancestral line was the only one that survived, all other Colonial and Cylon bloodlines died out in a couple of generations, and even Hera herself was killed as a young woman.

What doesn't make sense is that the Colonials didn't just give up on high tech, they gave up on *all* tech, because if they hadn't, there would have been a sudden spurt in human development at the time. We would have gone into the iron age if nothing else. To throw away even the basic tool-making skills that would have set them apart from the humans of the era was just plain suicide, and the net result fits in with the storyline: they all got wiped out, with the only thing surviving being Hera's DNA. From a point of view of plain old survival, the choice made by the Colonials made no sense at all. Maybe you give up firearms and more sophisticated tech, but could you not at least make some decent bows? An iron-headed spear? Maybe farming? If we are to believe that the Galactica timeline is our own, then the Colonials developed *nothing*, not even the most basic skills of civilization, which, given their intelligence, makes no sense at all. Can you seriously imagine that they wouldn't even craft so much as a hammer? Because according to the fossil record, they didn't.


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