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Offline Tinkles

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Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« on: September 26, 2013, 08:52:24 AM »
Just got the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and need some advice on the deadpan/dampening. Right now everything is really sensitive, but no matter what I put the settings on, it doesn't feel quite right. From too sensitive to not enough sensitivity.   Any tips?

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Offline Bizman

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Re: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 10:55:22 AM »
Scaling might be the thing for you to do. Deadpan allows you to have shaky hands without affecting your direction, Damping will add a delay to your input and ignore minor movements. Both are useful to eliminate automatic and unwanted stick movements. Start with none for both of them. If the raw indicator doesn't move, good. If it does, add some deadpan until the indicator is stable. Next lay your hand on the stick, just as you would do while auto-climbing. If your hand stutters, you might want to add a little damping. Do that for every axis separately, and for all of your controllers including pedals. You might also want to test the stability of your gaming desk without touching your stick. Shake your leg, tap your feet, drum the desk with your palms... You know, the little things you might do while autopiloting on a long trip.

For scaling there are many different styles from none to parabolic to linear. My current setup is a straight line in an angle of about 30 degrees, ending to the top right corner. That makes the stick a little less sensitive in small movements. Compare the raw and scaled indicator while moving your stick, then do some test flying. There's no right or wrong way to do that, the correct setting is what you get most kills with.

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Re: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 01:06:49 PM »
Scaling might be the thing for you to do. Deadpan allows you to have shaky hands without affecting your direction, Damping will add a delay to your input and ignore minor movements. Both are useful to eliminate automatic and unwanted stick movements. Start with none for both of them. If the raw indicator doesn't move, good. If it does, add some deadpan until the indicator is stable. Next lay your hand on the stick, just as you would do while auto-climbing. If your hand stutters, you might want to add a little damping. Do that for every axis separately, and for all of your controllers including pedals. You might also want to test the stability of your gaming desk without touching your stick. Shake your leg, tap your feet, drum the desk with your palms... You know, the little things you might do while autopiloting on a long trip.

For scaling there are many different styles from none to parabolic to linear. My current setup is a straight line in an angle of about 30 degrees, ending to the top right corner. That makes the stick a little less sensitive in small movements. Compare the raw and scaled indicator while moving your stick, then do some test flying. There's no right or wrong way to do that, the correct setting is what you get most kills with.
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Thanks for the information sir

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Offline RngFndr

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Re: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 08:42:47 PM »
I kinda like the default scaling.. It really is a matter of feel..

I just bump up the damping for all 3 axis to about 15%
just enough to calm the bouncy touch when trying to aim..

And I increase the deadband on rudder only, just a bit to
make sure I am not accidentally leeching off my airspeed
by hangin the rudder out in the breeze..

Make adjustments a little at a time, so you can undo an
error without losing any progress on your tune..

The X3d's last longer if you try to keep the weight off of
the center joint.. I use an armrest to get a neutral position..

They work good, till they go bad.. Then just get another..
They are cheap, I buy em 2 at a time..

Then when they are no longer fit for my standards, I give
em to a local animal shelter garage sale.. They sell it to
somebody who wants it for 5$.. People buy em right up..
Still works ok, but not good enough for me..
« Last Edit: September 27, 2013, 08:48:49 PM by RngFndr »

Offline zack1234

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Re: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 01:43:35 AM »
Buy a CH stick and a screw driver, a set of  pliers and some super glue :old:

They are exspensive but very accurare :old:

And last for years :old:
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Offline atlau

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Re: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 09:39:11 PM »
Tinkles I too have the Logitech and after a few months I had to increase the deadpan or it just is too fidgety in the neutral position. Then again it's gotten to the point where I need to recalibrate it every day... time for a new stick I think.

Offline RngFndr

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Re: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Advice Required
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2013, 08:09:17 AM »
X3d is a lot of bang for the buck.. Disposable true,  :lol..
But they have a Features/Longevity/Cost equation that works..

Logi should update to X3d MAX, keeping the same format, and keeping it
CHEAP.. Add a twin throttle, two stage trigger, and rudder lockout..

BAM, It would rule the market in no time..