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Offline doright

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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 08:53:09 PM »
+1

I like it. Seems like the glider on tow could just be an extension of the wingman autopilot.

Rough calculation you would only need 5000ft to glide from dar ring to base. I used wiki's CG-4 figures of 400fpm sink at 60mph. That gave a 13.2:1 glide ratio. Probably should add 800ft to that so you can fly a proper pattern and land in the one big(?) field in town or along a road on the edge of town.

Another idea. What if glider commandos attack the nearest un-held town ack pits. At least two commandos in the ack pit to kill and hold it. Then for the coup de gras, if all town acks are all held by commando troops, the field itself can be captured (10 troops or commandos in the map room) without the death and mayhem of destroying 75% of the town buildings. A stealth capture with the only clue is the flashing town. It would take good coordination, a fair number of pilots, and easily defeated by a limited number of defenders or a town resupply. But a fun thing to try occasionally.
(I make a distinction between troops and glider commandos because this would be too easy with a bunch of m3 or c47 troops. To make it really balanced all town acks must have be active before being taken by commandos, or a glider landing by town reactivates all town ack.)

2 commandos per ack add 3 for attrition, means one glider could capture about 2 acks. So 4 gliders to capture  the eight acks, one to kick 10 troops into map room, and a few more to sacrifice to the hedges and autoweenies. That is 8 glider pilots and 8 (or 4 if dual towed) C47 pilots. So an hour's edge of the seat fun for 16 players.

edit: (and the best part, any flashing towns will drive Semp nuts)
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 09:05:07 PM by doright »
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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 08:53:31 PM »
Semp

 :rofl Your so negative about anything new.
I can think of several ways this would work in a positive way. Not resulting in all ac dead :rofl

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Offline DurrD

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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2013, 07:02:32 PM »
I would like to see it where the glider does not make the base flash, or show on dot-dar even if the radar is up, but all other dynamics remain the same. 

The C-47 is still going to be throwing darbar in the sector or adjacent sector, and the base is going to have to have been de-acked and white-flagged, which is plenty of time for the defenders to notice and react. 

Once the town is ready, all attackers can leave and you could try to sneak a glider in.  If the tow plane enters the ring, the base flashes, so you are going to have to release high enough for the glider to make it in and land from outside the dar ring.  It's a one shot deal on landing too, as you have to put it down next to town on the first try without crashing.

Another twist on this would be if the glider could carry a jeep and/or a small field gun (but only the 3 troops that go with the jeep).
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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2013, 01:19:49 PM »
I would like to see it where the glider does not make the base flash, or show on dot-dar even if the radar is up, but all other dynamics remain the same. 
:devil sooo...even if good ol ollie and some buds were outside smokin a cig on the base, or if fat gerda in town were hanging her bras on the balcony, that big old glider approaching at 5000ft wouldn't be noticed by anyone?
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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2013, 01:28:07 PM »
:devil sooo...even if good ol ollie and some buds were outside smokin a cig on the base, or if fat gerda in town were hanging her bras on the balcony, that big old glider approaching at 5000ft wouldn't be noticed by anyone?

Well... that's not too far fetched, as they already do not notice the huge CV sailing up & down the coast and the 8" shells smashing the houses left & right...  :noid
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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2013, 04:14:43 PM »
 
Well... that's not too far fetched, as they already do not notice the huge CV sailing up & down the coast and the 8" shells smashing the houses left & right...  :noid

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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2013, 08:18:11 PM »
I like it :aok
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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2013, 08:21:59 PM »
My uncle restored a tiny bulldozer that was designed to be hauled in a ww2 glider.
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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2013, 09:46:04 AM »
To me this is cool because of the historical aspect but in the game I don't see this ending well and after the wow factor leaves I think people will go right back to m3s and goons seems to complicated for a quick base take. Just my .02 cents

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Re: the GLIDER answer....to the question
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2013, 12:09:27 PM »
:devil sooo...even if good ol ollie and some buds were outside smokin a cig on the base, or if fat gerda in town were hanging her bras on the balcony, that big old glider approaching at 5000ft wouldn't be noticed by anyone?

I think the concession to game play would be okay. If 10 guys want to come in with jeeps, the 3 troops a jeep will carry, some supplies, and maybe eventually a pack howitzer and try to take a town in a daring dawn raid, I'm willing to give them the extra few minutes to get close to base. Once the glider drops it's cargo, though, everything acts as normal.

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