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Offline Bizman

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Re: New Computer
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2013, 10:10:44 AM »
What about this case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146061
Looks good and is dirt cheap. Breathing, roomy, expandable.

Wpeters, are you really reading our answers? Quite recently you were asking our opinions for a gaming rig and kept suggesting home/office level computers which all would have needed both GPU and PSU replaced for gaming purposes. Now you start your asking round with an AH capable street credible light gaming rig and say it'd be made as a school project for home use. Come on! We apparently really like helping people, but ignoring our answers is simply rude. Sorry to say that, but that's how I feel.
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2013, 10:42:05 AM »
Good God, I hope you're not a grammar teacher.
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2013, 11:26:46 AM »
Wpeters, are you really reading our answers? Quite recently you were asking our opinions for a gaming rig and kept suggesting home/office level computers which all would have needed both GPU and PSU replaced for gaming purposes. Now you start your asking round with an AH capable street credible light gaming rig and say it'd be made as a school project for home use. Come on! We apparently really like helping people, but ignoring our answers is simply rude. Sorry to say that, but that's how I feel.

Sorry Bizman!!!

 I am dealing with two different budgets... The last time I was dealing with my budget and was trying to skimp.

The budget that the chairman and Secretary gave me a budget of around $800. Trying to get the most bang for my buck.  This  system we are going to sell then.. :x   Yes I do read your answers  :salute
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2013, 11:28:51 AM »
in that case, definitely drop to an i3 cpu and don't forget the keyboard, mouse and monitor...
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2013, 11:35:26 AM »
What I3 core would u recommend me to use..   Also how long will I3 core be good for.   I want to make this so they last as long as possible.


Here was one that has a cheaper i5 core..  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1K05J

Also should i use a smaller HDD
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 11:39:41 AM by wpeters »
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2013, 11:42:44 AM »
that looks like a decent list...going to be pushing past the $800 mark with a monitor regardless. not sure what you can trim either.

core i3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116945

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Re: New Computer
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2013, 11:45:30 AM »
NP, actually I feel a little ashamed of my rant now that I've had some dinner and rest. Nevertheless, your personal project resulted many good advice in the price category you now have. You can either copy the information you need from there, or, since repetition is the mother of all skills, you could double the amount of your project examples by building cheap home computers. I also believe selling $400 computers would be much easier than selling those of $800. Or, you could even build both to show your students the difference of a home/office desktop and a gaming rig since you've got the money for several ones. For the cheap ones, look at the specs in the ads dropping in your mailbox. You can easily build something that at least would look sexier!
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2013, 11:58:20 AM »
Also how long will I3 core be good for.   I want to make this so they last as long as possible.
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Also should i use a smaller HDD
The core type question is irrelevant. Of course, for a long lasting system the fastest possible components would give the best performance in the distant future, but in any case we are talking about some five years. It is statistically highly possible that the hard drive will fail at least once during that time. Probably also the PSU will at least produce less power by then, if not completely fail. The motherboard capacitors will dry. Electronic components aren't made to last forever, at least not those used in regular household items. Besides, in five years there'll be a couple of new Windows releases, making your build outdated. Think ahead for a year or two, we are talking about school projects here instead of long life span corporate computers (long life span=3 years...)
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2013, 12:22:15 PM »
What would u recommend me to cut out..  I guess my question is what motherboard would u recommend
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2013, 12:37:56 PM »
Well... If you're going to build cheap basic home/office computers capable to do Word, Excel, Youtube, Flash games... Have you taken full use of the PCpartpicker site?
Here's a list of all LGA1150 ATX and micro-ATX motherboards ordered by price: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#s=24&sort=a6 if you're going the Intel way.
Similarly, here's a list of Intel LGA1150 processors: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu/#m=21&k=24&sort=a6
And power supplies: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/power-supply/#sort=a7. As you've been told, don't buy the cheapest! For this kind of use, a semi-reputable brand will do, though.
For finding out who actually makes the psu: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html

Hope this helps


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Re: New Computer
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2013, 12:59:46 PM »
Just out of curiosity what would become, here's one Intel based: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
It's not the ultimately cheapest, but at the low end anyway. The PSU is made by HEC, whose older products have seemed not to break other components when failing.
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2013, 01:14:00 PM »
Just out of curiosity what would become, here's one Intel based: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
It's not the ultimately cheapest, but at the low end anyway. The PSU is made by HEC, whose older products have seemed not to break other components when failing.

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Re: New Computer
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2013, 01:17:46 PM »
Thanks a lot.. By the way how would that one u but up handle AH..  Might try to save a little more
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 02:04:27 AM »
Linky no worky
Might it be that I didn't use the Permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Kgrr

In case that doesn't work either, here's the list:

CPU: Intel Pentium G3430 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ECS B85H3-M(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($71.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($46.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 430W ATX12V Power Supply  ($27.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($85.87 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $441.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-03 02:55 EDT-0400)

For the record: This wouldn't handle AH well at all, but adding a decent video card like
XFX Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card  ($89.99 @ Amazon) will make it AH capable for a few years to come. Unless we get a totally new version with much higher requirements, that is.
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Re: New Computer
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2013, 07:41:01 AM »
Bizman, that mobo won't handle the cpu you picked. it's only for i3/i5/i7 not pentiums or celerons.

one of these will handle the cpu...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%20600438202%20600469848&IsNodeId=1&name=Core%20i7%20%2f%20i5%20%2f%20i3%20%2f%20Pentium%20%2f%20Celeron%20%28LGA1150%29&Pagesize=100

and if i were making the choice i would go with at least a z87 chipset mobo rather than the b85 chipset. and that ram, eeewww.
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