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Offline Widewing

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Better not hiccup....
« on: October 01, 2013, 10:24:19 PM »


Nope, no hiccups, no sneezing, no nothing. Better hope his insurer never sees this.
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 10:29:51 PM »
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 10:57:10 PM »
Dale "Snort" Snodgrass at the stick. Flew F-14s. The film Top Gun was loosely based on Snort. He's known for taking risks. However, he's had his share of brainfarts too. He landed the PoF F-86F wheels up.... Forgot to lower them. No longer gets to fly the F-86.....
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 09:28:11 AM »
I saw him fly the F-86 in an airshow at Dobbins AFB some years ago.  Beautiful airplane.

 
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 09:31:51 AM »
No longer gets to fly the F-86.....

That super-sucks.  :(

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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 09:43:38 AM »
I remember first seeing this pic floating around the net in the 90's:


The pilot was Capt Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, at the time Executive Officer of VF-33 with more than 4,800 hours in the F-14, currently Director of Congression- al Liasion, US House of Representatives.

The photo from the USS America in the summer of 1989 is widely seen, and most folks think it was either an edited photo, a risky maneuver, or a crash in progress. However, Snodgrass explained: "It's not risky at all with practice. It was my opening pass in a Tomcat tactical demonstration at sea. I started from the starboard rear quarter of the carrier, slightly below flight deck level. Airspeed was about 270 kts with the wings swept forward. I selected afterburner at about a half-mile out, and the aircraft accelerated to about 315 kts. As I approached the fantail, I rolled into an 85-degree bank and did a hard 5-6G turn, finishing about 10-20 degrees off of the boat's axis. Microseconds after this photo was taken, after rolling wings-level at an altitude slightly above the flight deck, I pulled vertical with a quarter-roll to the left, ending with an Immelman roll-out 90 degrees and continued with the remainder of the demo. It was a dramatic and, in my opinion, a very cool way to start a carrier demo as first performed by a great fighter pilot, Ed "Hunack" Andrews, who commanded VF-84 in 1980-1988.

The photo was taken by a Petty Officer who worked the flight deck. The individual with his arms behind his back was Admiral Jay Johnson, immediate past Chief of Naval Operations for the USN."


http://www.aerofiles.com/f14flyby.html

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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 12:27:46 PM »
I remember first seeing this pic floating around the net in the 90's:
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The pilot was Capt Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, at the time Executive Officer of VF-33 with more than 4,800 hours in the F-14, currently Director of Congression- al Liasion, US House of Representatives.

The photo from the USS America in the summer of 1989 is widely seen, and most folks think it was either an edited photo, a risky maneuver, or a crash in progress. However, Snodgrass explained: "It's not risky at all with practice. It was my opening pass in a Tomcat tactical demonstration at sea. I started from the starboard rear quarter of the carrier, slightly below flight deck level. Airspeed was about 270 kts with the wings swept forward. I selected afterburner at about a half-mile out, and the aircraft accelerated to about 315 kts. As I approached the fantail, I rolled into an 85-degree bank and did a hard 5-6G turn, finishing about 10-20 degrees off of the boat's axis. Microseconds after this photo was taken, after rolling wings-level at an altitude slightly above the flight deck, I pulled vertical with a quarter-roll to the left, ending with an Immelman roll-out 90 degrees and continued with the remainder of the demo. It was a dramatic and, in my opinion, a very cool way to start a carrier demo as first performed by a great fighter pilot, Ed "Hunack" Andrews, who commanded VF-84 in 1980-1988.

The photo was taken by a Petty Officer who worked the flight deck. The individual with his arms behind his back was Admiral Jay Johnson, immediate past Chief of Naval Operations for the USN."


http://www.aerofiles.com/f14flyby.html

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I love the narrative - BUT;  there is no way the guy "with his arms crossed behind his back" in the photo is an Admiral.  Anyone that has served Active or Reserve Service knows there is NO WAY a G/FO sits of the flight deck during operations
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 06:15:47 PM »
I remember first seeing this pic floating around the net in the 90's:
(Image removed from quote.)

The pilot was Capt Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, at the time Executive Officer of VF-33 with more than 4,800 hours in the F-14, currently Director of Congression- al Liasion, US House of Representatives.

The photo from the USS America in the summer of 1989 is widely seen, and most folks think it was either an edited photo, a risky maneuver, or a crash in progress. However, Snodgrass explained: "It's not risky at all with practice. It was my opening pass in a Tomcat tactical demonstration at sea. I started from the starboard rear quarter of the carrier, slightly below flight deck level. Airspeed was about 270 kts with the wings swept forward. I selected afterburner at about a half-mile out, and the aircraft accelerated to about 315 kts. As I approached the fantail, I rolled into an 85-degree bank and did a hard 5-6G turn, finishing about 10-20 degrees off of the boat's axis. Microseconds after this photo was taken, after rolling wings-level at an altitude slightly above the flight deck, I pulled vertical with a quarter-roll to the left, ending with an Immelman roll-out 90 degrees and continued with the remainder of the demo. It was a dramatic and, in my opinion, a very cool way to start a carrier demo as first performed by a great fighter pilot, Ed "Hunack" Andrews, who commanded VF-84 in 1980-1988.

The photo was taken by a Petty Officer who worked the flight deck. The individual with his arms behind his back was Admiral Jay Johnson, immediate past Chief of Naval Operations for the USN."


http://www.aerofiles.com/f14flyby.html

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Snort is very much the self-promoter.... I doubt the guy in the LSO vest is anything but an LSO. I've never seen a Admiral on the flight deck unless he was coming or going from the ship (and I flew them on and off when they did).
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 06:21:36 PM »
Snort is very much the self-promoter....

Based on the photographic and literal evidence, I figured as much. :D

I doubt the guy in the LSO vest is anything but an LSO. I've never seen a Admiral on the flight deck unless he was coming or going from the ship (and I flew them on and off when they did).

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...I doubt an F-14 rolls 90 degrees in microseconds either. :D

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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 09:14:09 PM »
Yeah, pic #1 is plumb stupid.
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 12:40:53 AM »
There are only types of pilots, those who have forgotten to pull gear up, and those who will, one day.
Flew with a friend in a old Laker amphibious plane, landing on water in that machine, you  do NOT want to land gear-up in water, forgetting it can be your next cold bath  :angel:
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 12:50:38 AM »
Don't you mean 'lower gear' and 'gear down?'  :headscratch:

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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 06:23:51 AM »
That's the other other kind of pilot.

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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2013, 11:57:28 AM »
He's in ground effect.  Not sure how it effects the P-51D, but some planes have to be forced to lose altitude once in ground effect (B47 for example).
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Re: Better not hiccup....
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2013, 03:45:09 PM »
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Nope, no hiccups, no sneezing, no nothing. Better hope his insurer never sees this.
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