Simple way to make AH GV-friendly and increase subscribers

[muzik]

How do you type with your head in the sand?

There is nothing wrong about going after the person that just shot you down, it is part of the game and not because it's been 'tolerated', it's part of the game design.

Some people in this game take the "honorable fight" ideology too far in the MA. You seem to be at the other extreme.

Like I said, I have some revenge kills under my belt, but I generally do unto others as they do unto others and at least I know a cheap kill when I see it. They give me little pleasure because they take little skill and are only enjoyed by little men.

There's nothing wrong with upping bombers to carry on the fight. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to get the guy who is better than you. There is something wrong with failing to discourage poor sportsmanship that turns away mature customers in exchange for a few sore losers who don't care.

Apples and oranges.  A 262 being perked has nothing to do with someone upping a bomber or a heavy fighter to bomb a GV. 

You are a poor excuse for a spin doctor. Pickin that orange whilst it was still green don't make it an apple.

Here let me say it again, maybe you get your color vision back. So on the one hand, it's not ok to 1 up everyone by grabbing a 262 when you suck at every other fighter. But it is ok to grab B24s when you suck in a tank.

He can ask on country channel, ask squadron mates or create a mission.  People ask all the time for gunners and such, asking for a little AAA support isn't difficult.

   Yea, that's a winner. What is the average success rate again? 2%?

"Hey can someone sit in a wirble and protect me?"   

[danmac]

-1 to this wish.  I am as terrified as anyone when I take a Tiger II out of the safety of my base and out into the big bad world where it can get bombed with impunity, but that is all part of the fun, so I do it anyway.

The only thing I would possibly endorse that would make it tougher to hunt and kill gv's from the air is the complete removal of enemy gv icons being visible to aircraft.  That would make it much easier to hide from planes.  If you are moving and/or firing that would give your position away just as it does now.  Storches would still be able to see icons, giving them some reason for being.  I could definitely support that idea, but anything beyond that gets a no vote from me.

I like this idea since the in rl their was no Icons at all and I wouldent be mad if I got egged with no icons cuz that person had to work for it

[TDeacon]

I like this idea since the in rl their was no Icons at all and I wouldent be mad if I got egged with no icons cuz that person had to work for it

Well if you like the no-icons idea, say so in my other wish thread "Alternative ... (etc.)".  Currently it's being dominated by the people who like things the way they are. 

MH

[R 105]

 Attack from the air against ground based assets such as armor is part of war. Ask the Waffen SS Panzer groups at Normandy in 1944. It took the 2nd SS Panzer division Das Reich 10 days to make the 300 mile trip to Normandy because of allied air power and the smaller delaying tactics by the Resistance in the rear.

 I except being bombed by aircraft as part of the game. I hate the drives just to get into position to get a shot at another tank way more than I do getting bombed. If we had the DOT in here and had to keep a log book we would all be out of service for 8 hrs with all this driving lol. Tightening up the spawn points would go a log way to improving game play for the Tanker folks. 

[muzik]

Attack from the air against ground based assets such as armor is part of war. Ask the Waffen SS Panzer groups at Normandy in 1944. It took the 2nd SS Panzer division Das Reich 10 days to make the 300 mile trip to Normandy because of allied air power and the smaller delaying tactics by the Resistance in the rear.

 I except being bombed by aircraft as part of the game. I hate the drives just to get into position to get a shot at another tank way more than I do getting bombed. If we had the DOT in here and had to keep a log book we would all be out of service for 8 hrs with all this driving lol. Tightening up the spawn points would go a log way to improving game play for the Tanker folks. 

Tanks in AH aren't as vulnerable as they were in ww2 because 1) They had to be found first. When panzer divisions got bombed, it was a matter of chance and strategic defeat, not raging losers knowing exactly where you were and revenge killing. 2) You cant call up riechsmarshal von dVweebstoutin and demand AA ground units or air cover. You have to ask for it, and in the best times you'll be lucky to get any help 5% of the time. 3) you have a big red icon over your head. 4) A panzer division might have thousands of small arms surrounding it besides the AA, to pose at least some kind of threat to attackers.

[bozon]

Change the “rules” so that you gain 0 perk points (or even lose some) if you bomb a GV inside a VBase radar circle.  This can be adjustable.  

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How about:
"Disable all guns on a GV when he sits on concrete/runway/rearm-pad".

Perked planes go down to flak just the same as non-perked planes. Why should it not apply the same way in the opposite direction?
Perks are meant to be lost, otherwise they are meaningless - deal with it!

[TDeacon]

How about:
"Disable all guns on a GV when he sits on concrete/runway/rearm-pad".

Perked planes go down to flak just the same as non-perked planes. Why should it not apply the same way in the opposite direction?
Perks are meant to be lost, otherwise they are meaningless - deal with it!

You could start a wish for this; I myself never have had a problem with GVs on air bases.  I have been killed in a GV by AC 100 times for every time I've been killed in an AC by a GV.  And remember, I've been playing these games since Mac-Amiga Air Warrior in 1989.  

I am not adamantly opposed to your idea, but I don't think it's really necessary from a game play perspective.  

MH