sick and tired of being sick and tired

[homersipes]

We are both white, middle-aged and Christian and we are both veterans. She was in the Army and I was a Marine. So the stereotype that only the young and the minorities are struggling these days is a media induced illusion.

yes sir my inlaws are struggling, selling all of their antiques and anything that isnt a necessity, my mother inlaws meds chew up a lot of thier income

[HL117]

Worked for the largest airline in the country, two toldlers and the wife pregnant with number three, got furloughed, sold the homestead and took work out of state in the same line of work at lower wage.

I am confident if your willing to move, which I was, you can find work. I will move tomorrow if it happens again.

I understand many cannot move for whatever reason but for me this was/is not the case, keep positive, keep all your options open, never give up, your tide will turn.

[Bizman]

There's a small workshop in my neighbourhood who used to accept even the smallest subcontract jobs that their competitors despised. Now the others struggle while this one has the calendar full for a couple of years with long term subcontracts. It paid to be humble and do what was offered and available. If you're among the best in your branch your skills will surely be noticed and rewarded sooner or later. If you aren't and don't even want to be, that's your choice - also economically. Also, the best doesn't necessarily mean what first comes into mind, being the ultimate performer. It's a combination of professional ability, flexibility, spirit... Choosing a photo model is a good example. It isn't the best looking one that would get the job, it's the one that is the nicest to work with that gets it.

[Gemini]

I will pray for you all 

[Wolfala]

Homer,

Remember the conversation you and I had about pipeline work? Let me know if we need to revisit it.

Lets face it - NH is dead. There is zero industry there that anyone wants anything to do with.

Right now I travel all over the world teaching guys how to fly. I do that because that's what is required to get paid.

You need to start thinking about being home less if you want better opportunities.

[uptown]

I thank the good Lord every day he made me mechanically inclined and I had the good sense to buy good tools early on in life. A mechanic is never without work. I haven't punched a time clock in almost a year, but I make as much money in 2 days at home in my own garage than I did working for someone else.

Buy some tools and do brake jobs, oil changes, water pumps and what not and go from there. I put a water pump in a minivan today for 100 bucks........it took me 3 hours. In the morning (monday) I'm going squirrel huntin'. 

[zack1234]

So in America if you are ill it costs a lot of money?

[Slate]

So in America if you are ill it costs a lot of money?

    You have to be treated in the USA even if you can not pay. Working stiffs pay for those who are deemed unable to pay.

   Where the money has to go is the real deal. Most health care money goes to the insurance companies not to doctors.
   Yes you pay the doctor, hospital, drug dealer and in turn the Doctor and Hospital pay the insurance companies large amounts to feed the corrupt Law Profession. Why don't we have the players set the rules in sports too. 
   Only in America (or it started here) can you spill coffee on yourself and get a Million dollar check. 

   

 

[guncrasher]

    You have to be treated in the USA even if you can not pay. Working stiffs pay for those who are deemed unable to pay.

   Where the money has to go is the real deal. Most health care money goes to the insurance companies not to doctors.
   Yes you pay the doctor, hospital, drug dealer and in turn the Doctor and Hospital pay the insurance companies large amounts to feed the corrupt Law Profession. Why don't we have the players set the rules in sports too. 
   Only in America (or it started here) can you spill coffee on yourself and get a Million dollar check. 

   

 

not the million dollar coffee spill lie again.  slate how many times must you forget the facts?



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[zack1234]

    You have to be treated in the USA even if you can not pay. Working stiffs pay for those who are deemed unable to pay.

   Where the money has to go is the real deal. Most health care money goes to the insurance companies not to doctors.
   Yes you pay the doctor, hospital, drug dealer and in turn the Doctor and Hospital pay the insurance companies large amounts to feed the corrupt Law Profession. Why don't we have the players set the rules in sports too. 
   Only in America (or it started here) can you spill coffee on yourself and get a Million dollar check. 

   

 

So if you cannot pay your a bad person? 

[VonMessa]

Things are tough all over, bud.

Ebb and flow.  Sometimes the tide works with you, other times it sucks you out to sea. 

As others have said, sometimes there is a decent living to be made by doing things that others aren't willing to do.

[Slate]

So if you cannot pay your a bad person? 

I don't believe I used those words. I think there are some that abuse the system.

[Slate]

not the million dollar coffee spill lie again.  slate how many times must you forget the facts?



semp

  You are right I got the facts wrong, closer to 3 million. 

The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages. This amount was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at fault in the spill. The jury also awarded Liebeck $2.7 million in punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonalds' coffee sales.

[coombz]

I don't believe I used those words. I think there are some that abuse the system.

i guess we can add 'healthcare' to the long list of things the US is terrible at, along with:

* keeping religious nutjobs out of government
* preventing murders
* the war on terror
* the war on drugs
* not having a completely corrupt and screwed up prison/justice system
* stopping religious nutjobs from influencing education
* having worthwhile media outlets
* not being morbidly obese
* winning wars against drastically inferior militaries

[guncrasher]

  You are right I got the facts wrong, closer to 3 million. 

The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages. This amount was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at fault in the spill. The jury also awarded Liebeck $2.7 million in punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonalds' coffee sales.

the punitive damages were reduced by the judge to 480,000. the parties settled out of court for less than 600,000 before the appeal verdict was read.

and to think that she had asked before hiring a lawyer to pay her actual medical expenses and her loss of income for a total of less than 20,000 but she was offered 800 bucks by mcdonalds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants

semp