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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2013, 06:26:44 AM »
The smaller the target, the faster it is, the HIGHER it is, the more likely it will be set on fire. Apparently the coading has hit a wall here
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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2013, 07:23:25 AM »
Exactly!!
I will double that exactly. 

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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2013, 01:11:01 PM »
if you maneuver it the ack box expands, meaning less chance of being hit. flying in a straight line at 500 mph or 200 mph makes you the same target. my deaths to cv ack come when i'm in my dive to drop on it, it's never been a huge factor even when fighting in it. When it is i just leave the area.

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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2013, 01:37:26 PM »
One thing that suddenly came to my mind:

Has anybody ever lost a drone to the puffy ack? In all of my documented 51 losses to puffy (and many, many more cases of planes damaged by puffy) I never had a drone being visibly hit by auto puffy. Direct kills, fuel leaks & fires, oil hits or outright engine losses - all happend only & exclusively to my lead bomber.

Just a freak statistical aberration, or could there be a coding oversight resulting in 'auto ack proof' drones?

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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2013, 01:59:46 PM »
One thing that suddenly came to my mind:

Has anybody ever lost a drone to the puffy ack? In all of my documented 51 losses to puffy (and many, many more cases of planes damaged by puffy) I never had a drone being visibly hit by auto puffy. Direct kills, fuel leaks & fires, oil hits or outright engine losses - all happend only & exclusively to my lead bomber.

Just a freak statistical aberration, or could there be a coding oversight resulting in 'auto ack proof' drones?



No, I have never lost a drone to puffy.

Interesting......


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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2013, 06:13:37 PM »
No, I have never lost a drone to puffy.

Interesting......


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I don't remember having lost a drone to puffy either.
And I'll add (anecdotal, I haven't kept statistics) evidence to lusche's Ki67 death data. I take various types of bombers to strats, and in my experience Ki67s seem to have the highest mortality rate to puffy ack (and the lowest mortality rate to enemy fighters, which is why I use them!). Ki67s can take a lot of damage before dying, so this doesn't seem logical.
Lusche, I don't like B29s but I do fly them on occasion, and puffy ack deals my lead plane an eventually lethal fuel tank leak roughly 15% of the time. Do you count planes you have to ditch due to fuel leaks in your "death by puffy ack" statistics, or only planes that go down with missing wings or in a blaze of glory?

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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2013, 08:38:03 PM »
Lusche, I don't like B29s but I do fly them on occasion, and puffy ack deals my lead plane an eventually lethal fuel tank leak roughly 15% of the time. Do you count planes you have to ditch due to fuel leaks in your "death by puffy ack" statistics, or only planes that go down with missing wings or in a blaze of glory?

That never happened to me, as I a) take always enough fuel to have a decent reserve and b) I drain the main fuel tank first, which has been invariably the only tank ever been hit in the B-29 (that's another  :headscratch: )


The drones being 'invisible' to puffy ack is indeed interesting. If it really turns out to be so, and would be changed, it would probably have quite an impact on bomber loss rates in CV as well as strat puffy ack...
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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2013, 10:57:08 AM »
That never happened to me, as I a) take always enough fuel to have a decent reserve and b) I drain the main fuel tank first, which has been invariably the only tank ever been hit in the B-29 (that's another  :headscratch: )


The drones being 'invisible' to puffy ack is indeed interesting. If it really turns out to be so, and would be changed, it would probably have quite an impact on bomber loss rates in CV as well as strat puffy ack...

I can't say with certainty, it could've been 5" hitting them, but I'm fairly certain I've seen smoke coming off my drones after I've gone through puffy.  I am generally in B24s over a CV at around 10k.  The direct fire ack might be in play at that point as well?

Interesting thought and worth investigating IMO.

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Re: CV ACK!!
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2013, 11:54:35 AM »
Hitech...care to weigh in?

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Re: CV ACK!!!
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2013, 12:10:04 PM »
Actually, I believe it already HAS been toned down from what it was. Not only that, there is considerably less puffy than what there normally would be realistically (if I am not mistaken.)

I understand your frustration, most of us have been there at one point or another.   The puffy only starts targeting you if you are over 3,000 ft when you are within it's range.


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