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Offline JUGgler

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2013, 01:58:29 PM »


You cut me deep Mak!

Your ploy to get me to return to prove my case won't work!












Maybe it will


























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Offline LilMak

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2013, 02:59:53 PM »
MuuuuuuHahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2013, 10:38:43 AM »
My favorite is the D-11.  I use the D-40 as a mud mover then fight with it. The N feels like a slug and the M ..well that belongs to the 56th  :neener:

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2013, 10:51:01 AM »
liMak, I agree on the D40.  if I had to choose one, it would be the D40.

I do remember an outing with the N that I was low and slow. Fuel was low.  I remember pitching that big, bird around with the WEP off and on.  It felt like a Seafire or the like.

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2013, 06:08:59 PM »
The D40 was always my favourite untill they released the M

Here, I have proof. I made this back in about 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrZKuDU5jrE

D40 kills compilation
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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2013, 07:25:31 PM »
I'm partial to the D40. 

Jarbo is too and he is an expert.
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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »
I don't know which one's best, I love the D11 but love the M as well. And the N, and the D25, and the D40, and and  :x

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2013, 09:09:34 AM »
A while back I used to fly the Peeeeeee47's exclusively.


What I took from them:

The D11 looks the best.
The D25 has pretty looking skins available.
The D40 is the jack of all trades.
The M has great gas mileage - 40 MPG city!
The N has boobs on one of the skins.  :banana:


There is no best P47. Its either one of those 5 that suit you best and which one you like the most. Master it and thou shall be thy best Jug pilot in thine entire kingdom.

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2013, 11:48:49 PM »
I sure like that M. Stay high though. On the deck you can be ran down by several other crafts.

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2013, 04:18:03 AM »
A while back I used to fly the Peeeeeee47's exclusively.


What I took from them:

The D11 looks the best.
The D25 has pretty looking skins available.
The D40 is the jack of all trades.
The M has great gas mileage - 40 MPG city!
The N has boobs on one of the skins.  :banana:


There is no best P47. Its either one of those 5 that suit you best and which one you like the most. Master it and thou shall be thy best Jug pilot in thine entire kingdom.
:airplane: Pretty good essay on the different jugs! I keep flying different ones and can't seem to settle on one version over another one. The loss of "E" keeps getting me in trouble, so I am going to have to work a little harder to become a good Jug pilot. Love those 8 guns though! With bad eyes, they help overcome some poor aiming I guess.
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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2013, 10:08:36 AM »
There is a big difference between how the Jug was used in WWII and in Aces High.  The difference is a game vs. Reality.

Turning and burning wasn't given a thought, it was to be a high alt escort and interceptor.  This is where the P47 really shines.
Slinging rockets and eggs on this monster came later when air superiority was realized over Europe and the Med.

The first P47s used in Europe were the C Models which believe it or not are listed slightly faster then the D Models. Range at that
time was the problem with the P47C.  Initially the front cowling bands on the early P47s were painted white when the 47 was
introduced over Europe so as to identify them as P47s and not be confused with the FW190.

Most all FGs  based in Great Britain at one time or another flew the P47.  All these FGs but one converted to the P51.
The 56th is the one and only FG to fly the P47, all models (except for N) for the duration of the war.  The 56th listed 42 Aces in the P47.
It's loss to sortie ratio was .07.  Yep.......less the 1% losses per total sorties flown by the venerable P47.

What ever it was assigned to do, it did it very very well in the hands of capable Pilots.

True story:  1 April 1944:  The 56th on the way back home from an uneventful mission to Strasbourg, the 61st FS CO Jim Stewart
decided to do a little  aerodrome strafing at Lille.  The AAA was ready at Lille and Pilot Thomas Owens took hits to his fuel tanks.
While screaming for Owens to get out, Stewart flew straight into a Telegraph pole, which to the amazement of the Pilots
watching, came out far worse shape then the P47.  Owens went in unfortunately.  Stewart nursed the P47 back home with pieces
of the telegraph pole in his aircraft, several were large.  This is the chief reason the A10 is nicknamed the Thunderbolt, in tribute
to the P47.
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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2013, 11:09:34 AM »
Slightly off-topic, but why were the jugs replaced by ponies? I have always considered the P47 as a much better aircraft than the pony.
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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2013, 11:18:03 AM »
Range, for one. Until the N models the P-47 couldn't accompany the B-17s all the way to target on the longer flights.
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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2013, 11:40:48 AM »
Cost I believe was another factor. I thought I remember reading somewhere that the Pony was cheaper than the Jug to build.

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Re: P47 Which one as a pure fighter
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 11:46:19 AM »
There is a big difference between how the Jug was used in WWII and in Aces High.  The difference is a game vs. Reality.

Turning and burning wasn't given a thought, it was to be a high alt escort and interceptor.  This is where the P47 really shines.
Slinging rockets and eggs on this monster came later when air superiority was realized over Europe and the Med.

The first P47s used in Europe were the C Models which believe it or not are listed slightly faster then the D Models. Range at that
time was the problem with the P47C.  Initially the front cowling bands on the early P47s were painted white when the 47 was
introduced over Europe so as to identify them as P47s and not be confused with the FW190.

Most all FGs  based in Great Britain at one time or another flew the P47.  All these FGs but one converted to the P51.
The 56th is the one and only FG to fly the P47, all models (except for N) for the duration of the war.  The 56th listed 42 Aces in the P47.
It's loss to sortie ratio was .07.  Yep.......less the 1% losses per total sorties flown by the venerable P47.

What ever it was assigned to do, it did it very very well in the hands of capable Pilots.

True story:  1 April 1944:  The 56th on the way back home from an uneventful mission to Strasbourg, the 61st FS CO Jim Stewart
decided to do a little  aerodrome strafing at Lille.  The AAA was ready at Lille and Pilot Thomas Owens took hits to his fuel tanks.
While screaming for Owens to get out, Stewart flew straight into a Telegraph pole, which to the amazement of the Pilots
watching, came out far worse shape then the P47.  Owens went in unfortunately.  Stewart nursed the P47 back home with pieces
of the telegraph pole in his aircraft, several were large.  This is the chief reason the A10 is nicknamed the Thunderbolt, in tribute
to the P47.

Nice post.

I would like to add something - the early P-47 units (4th, 78th, and 56th) under Eighth Fighter Command earned their lumps and learned their trade in a P-47 against a highly skilled and veteran Luftwaffe. By the time the the P-51D arrived in theater, air superiority was achieved.  
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