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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 02:18:58 PM »
Which is arguably a good thing, given that the side with ENY issues likely has a fairly sizeable numbers advantage.

I'm still of the opinion that ENY isn't harsh enough.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2013, 02:37:16 PM »
Which is arguably a good thing, given that the side with ENY issues likely has a fairly sizeable numbers advantage.

I'm still of the opinion that ENY isn't harsh enough.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ENY focused on side percentage?  I notice during low numbers that the ENY is working, but during high numbers it isn't. I've seen it go as high as 125 bish 93 knights 145 rooks and no ENY.  


I recommend this for the "Auto Disco Tower Sitters"

To have a new feature, similar to the checkbox for the "I am AFK" thing.  Where if you check it, it makes it so you aren't calculated into the ENY percentage. So if you are there for the sole reason of getting perks, or had something in real life come up.   My way of balancing this would be, while that box is checked, you can't take off from any base or get in any gun, GV (or even join anyone), or join any missions. A pop-up would appear (like that of when you alt-f4), and would have it's own message with it.  When the player comes back, they can un-check the box, and can fly/join or drive again.




I expect someone in the next few posts to say something to the effect "Well, they could easily abuse the ENY system with this", then that means we need to improve the ENY system!



Just an idea.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2013, 02:40:27 PM »
interesting idea Tinkles...very interesting.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 04:21:00 PM »
Which is arguably a good thing, given that the side with ENY issues likely has a fairly sizeable numbers advantage.

I'm still of the opinion that ENY isn't harsh enough.


  Thats the whole point of this thread,  It's a false size advantage, being as the players may be logged in and counted towards the ENY, but are actually AFK for long periods of time, and not contributing.  and if you think the ENY is not harsh enough,  I KNOW your not flying bishops. nothing sux worse than trying to defend a base under a ROOK horde attack, and the only thing you can up is P40 !

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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 04:25:41 PM »
ptboat spawn and just let it run.  or gv run to the strats.  I was once in a mission where we drove for 1 1/2 hours to get to a base in a tank.   a month or two ago, perhaps 3, one guy created a mission with a dozen+ that drove to the strats for 2 hours I think.


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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 06:58:15 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ENY focused on side percentage?  I notice during low numbers that the ENY is working, but during high numbers it isn't. I've seen it go as high as 125 bish 93 knights 145 rooks and no ENY.

You know, I'm not entirely sure. All I know is that ENY in its current form is ineffective.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 08:09:48 PM »
You know, I'm not entirely sure. All I know is that ENY in its current form is ineffective.

yes its based on % of total

if one side has 10% more than another side, eny limiting starts kicking in...

eg: bish 35% knight 37% rook 28% == no eny, because knights only 9% more than rook.

bish 35% knight 40% rook 25% = eny because knights 15% more

I've never figured out how much specifically for how much %, but the 10% is when it starts.


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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 08:11:26 PM »

can I borrow some of their extra time?

that's what you don't understand they had fun.



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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2013, 08:22:19 PM »
yes its based on % of total

if one side has 10% more than another side, eny limiting starts kicking in...

eg: bish 35% knight 37% rook 28% == no eny, because knights only 9% more than rook.

bish 35% knight 40% rook 25% = eny because knights 15% more

I've never figured out how much specifically for how much %, but the 10% is when it starts.




Thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2013, 08:38:13 PM »
If you want to pay others 14.95 then sure.
Otherwise, they pay and do what they want :aok





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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2013, 08:47:26 PM »
If you want to pay others 14.95 then sure.
Otherwise, they pay and do what they want :aok


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dunno Oz, the current side switch time was due to the behavior of a minority paying 14.95. in this one thing there is a reasonable time for being inactive especially late at night, when it affects everyone on at the time, it should be addressed in some way.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2013, 08:52:52 PM »
The biggest reason that we have tower sitters is because they believe they need to be on-line to get the perks when the war is won. If HTC put out that you DO NOT have to be on line but only a member of the winning time for the past 12 hours maybe more people wouldn't worry about it and log off.

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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2013, 09:03:08 PM »
they believe they need to be on-line to get the perks when the war is won


For some unknown reason, you don't get war victory perks anymore when not online. It's quite some time ago when I noticed it. A few months ago I finally did a test and logged off when my chesspiece was about to win. When I logged back on and the new map was on, I saw that my perks had not changed.



But again, for the reasons I layed out in my earlier post, the "tower sitter" problem is probably just a large exaggeration, just like the "player hopping in droves to the winning side" myth.



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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2013, 01:37:59 AM »
I think it also be because of the achievment requirment to be in game a certain number of hours straight to win that achievement.
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Re: Auto Disco tower sitters
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2013, 07:10:35 AM »
But again, for the reasons I layed out in my earlier post, the "tower sitter" problem is probably just a large exaggeration, just like the "player hopping in droves to the winning side" myth.





Lusche, I agree with in in part, but I have seen many people afk for a long time and not just as the war is about to be won, even happens in my squad :bhead :salute
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