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Offline NatCigg

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2013, 05:00:15 PM »
The truth should be known.  you cant say that hundreds of people that saw something did not see anything.

They never found a shorted wire or "cause".  Its been reported that the supposed part in question was found and was functional, not shorted.  Also, the fuel was said to be similar to diesel in that it was not that reactive and would of taken a lot of power to ignite.  This being a main reason a midair exposion with this fuel has never happened before or since the accident.  Boeing, what do you think?  is there a chance that one of your 747s could spontaneously blow up because you are running voltage through your fuel tanks?

Where was all the explosive residue coming from?  Why was it in the center wing tank?  why do they see molten metal splattered inside the fuel tanks that forms a pattern that crosses all fractures?

A lot of common sense is being ignored here.  


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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2013, 05:55:43 PM »

A lot of common sense is being ignored here.  


Yeah like motive.

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2013, 06:01:41 PM »
Yeah like motive.
don't really need a motive. could have been a military "accident". with some cameras, a little money and a script a person could make a really nice conspiracy.
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2013, 07:05:07 PM »
don't really need a motive. could have been a military "accident". with some cameras, a little money and a script a person could make a really nice conspiracy.
Don't mind the eyewitnesses, investigators opinions, or physical evidence.

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2013, 07:12:05 PM »
"A missile exploding a distance above the left wing is consistent with the radar evidence, the hole described above in Bott’s report, and the observations of many eyewitnesses including Major Fred Meyer, a former helicopter rescue pilot in Vietnam who was flying a mission for the NY Air National Guard in a Black Hawk helicopter nearby at the time. Major Meyer and his crew were first to arrive at the crash site for search and rescue. Both Major Meyer and his co-pilot Captain Chris Baur believe a missile caused the crash."

I wonder what the two pilots testimony says?  :headscratch:

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2013, 07:39:34 PM »
Don't mind the eyewitnesses, investigators opinions, or physical evidence.
i have all day...roswell new mexico 1947, what really happened? july 23rd 1948 50 miles south of montgomery alabama, what really happened?
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2013, 08:50:11 PM »
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2013, 09:09:23 PM »
What I can't abide by such conspiracy "documentaries" is that they profit on the grief of others. They rip up old wounds and make the relatives live in perpetual uncertainty.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2013, 10:18:34 PM »
i have all day...roswell new mexico 1947, what really happened? july 23rd 1948 50 miles south of montgomery alabama, what really happened?
What a master debater.

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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2013, 03:33:32 AM »
What I can't abide by such conspiracy "documentaries" is that they profit on the grief of others. They rip up old wounds and make the relatives live in perpetual uncertainty.

Except that this one is disputed my many members of the investigative team, many eye witnesses who know their stuff, many who have no real personal stake in getting answers except for wanting to know the truth. If it were just the victims families it would be one thing and unlike many other "conspiracy" dramas nobody is in this one to make money.

There are hard truths that have never been answered. You want a motive, heres one http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-july-1988-shooting-down-of-iran-air-flight-655/5341463 I myself have always thought the terrorism angle was never properly explored.

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A month after the crash, the London Times reported that senior Iranian sources claimed that three Stingers had been smuggled into the U.S. via Canada by an Egyptian group composed of followers of Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, who was convicted of conspiring to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993. Later a Defense Intelligence Agency official knowledgeable about missile technology, who had assisted the FBI with its eyewitness interviews, told congressional staffers that he believed TWA 800 was hit by at least one manpad missile.
http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/sixty-minutes-ignores-twa-800/

We cant talk Politics here so let me phrase this properly. As a young airman in the MidEast back in the '70s, in an area rife with terrorist attacks against Americans, I noticed an utter lack of reporting on such incidents. Some of which happened to friends of mine. Turkey was an extremely important ally and the Turks did not want any news that would rock the boat in our relations. Ask them and they'd say "what terrorism"? Our own people werent eager to show their own failed foreign policies either.

Its much harder covering up a car bomb blowing up the basement of the WTC, or airplanes flying into them. Or bombs going off in subways or race finish lines. But I believe they would if they could. Just like they did in Benghazi with the election in the balance with one party strutting around saying they have won the war on terror. Western Democracies run on $$ and terrorism is bad for business. Its bad for the Kings and Queens and their resumes as well. Remember they only have to convince the 51% who would probably vote for them anyways, made easier by the media who was/is on their sides already. It was klinton in '96 right? And now we got this guy? Neither have been aggressively pursued by the media for answers.

So I avoided politics while making a point. I myself am not a conspiracy fan boy. I dont buy the books and i dont make blanket statements of disbelief. I want to see proof. In TWA 800 there is plenty and always has been. But I dont think this was a MANPAD  missile. The evidence would point to a missile with far more range.

Just to many witnesses, legit people with experience in a lot of this stuff, saw what happened that night. what missile type shot down TWA-800.
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The half-dozen investigators whose charges will be fleshed out in a documentary set to air July 17 - the anniversary of the crash - say they were never allowed to get at the truth. But they are confident a missile brought down the plane.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/18/twa-flight-800-investigators-break-silence-in-new-documentary-claim-original/

We deserve answers from an independent panel.
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2013, 05:52:34 AM »
So you think about a dozen government agencies just agreed to cover it up? ... And did so successfully?
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2013, 07:27:46 AM »
So you think about a dozen government agencies just agreed to cover it up? ... And did so successfully?
wouldn't be the first time it has happened in this country...
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2013, 07:41:57 AM »
Really... How do you know?
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2013, 07:58:33 AM »
There wasnt a "couple dozen". There was one or two. Everyone else was locked out, including the agency who's main job is to investigate airline disasters. And one cant help but wonder why the CIA and NASA were involved at all. Most of all the CIA.
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Re: New documentary about TWA flight 800
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2013, 08:15:11 AM »
So "about a dozen" becomes "couple dozen" when you read it...

What was "locked out" from the NTSB?

Wait... You don't understand why the CIA would be involved in the investigation of an airline disaster that potentially involved international terrorism?! Really?!
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