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Offline Hoarach

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Stealth destroyer
« on: October 29, 2013, 07:42:07 PM »
Anyone else think this is impressive?  Size of the USS Arizona, but an ugly SOB.

Just out of hindsight, why the hell does the US Navy need a stealth destroyer.  What navy out there could compete with the US navy right now.  Granted China is closing in on technology but no where near the size in terms of numbers.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/29/bigger-faster-deadlier-navy-launches-new-stealth-destroyer/?hpt=hp_inthenews
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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 07:46:13 PM »
It's interesting.

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 08:28:46 PM »
When a single ship can shrug off any inbound anti-ship missile, evade detection from enemy ships and aircraft, and yet send the most lethal combination of firepower against enemy ships even seen, I think that means something. 

I am surprised they still called it a "destroyer", when in fact it will perform more like a cruiser/frigate.  It is no escort ship and it certainly isn't going to be chasing corvettes and other small ships around regional waters as "destroyers" were intended to do.  It will be interesting to see how it is deployed, meaning if it is like the Royal Navy and the US sends it out on its own, or will it a part of a carrier group.  Time will tell.  I'm just glad it is on our side.   :D
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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 09:32:18 PM »
If it's not going to be a support ship in a formation... Why don't they just make it go under water?  :cheers:
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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 09:35:27 PM »
Yippee a new way kill each other.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 01:05:12 PM »
When a single ship can shrug off any inbound anti-ship missile, evade detection from enemy ships and aircraft, and yet send the most lethal combination of firepower against enemy ships even seen, I think that means something. 

I am surprised they still called it a "destroyer", when in fact it will perform more like a cruiser/frigate.  It is no escort ship and it certainly isn't going to be chasing corvettes and other small ships around regional waters as "destroyers" were intended to do.  It will be interesting to see how it is deployed, meaning if it is like the Royal Navy and the US sends it out on its own, or will it a part of a carrier group.  Time will tell.  I'm just glad it is on our side.   :D

Modern frigates are smaller than destroyers, and are typically dedicated escort vessels.  Indeed, the Navy's now venerable Oliver Hazard Perry class of frigates were primarily intended to be convoy escorts during the Cold War.  They had neither the range nor the speed to regularly operate with the carrier groups. The Zumwalt is definitely in the cruiser class, from a size perspective.  It will likely be able to operate with carrier groups, but I would expect it to operate independently, as well.  There's not much point being stealthy if you're sitting just a few miles from something like a carrier, which has the radar cross-section of a small planetoid.  Moreover, it quite obviously capable of taking care of threats above, on, or below the water.  The mention of UAVs also means it might be a good choice for supporting special forces, but it appears to be primarily a blue-water combatant.  The Navy is building a whole different class of small combat craft for littoral operations, one that is more along the lines of a shallow-water frigate in size and capabilities.
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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 01:18:15 PM »
Looks like this thing that is sitting in Auckland harbour right now

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/9198359/350m-superyacht-arrives-in-Auckland

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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 01:49:27 PM »
There's not much point being stealthy if you're sitting just a few miles from something like a carrier...

There is not much point in being a surface combatant of you're not protecting a carrier or other surface assets. If it's supposed to go do stuff on its own, why not just make it go under the water?
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 02:31:57 PM »
Saber is probably right that is going to do a lot of special forces tasks especially with the ability to launch UAVs.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 03:25:41 PM »
It's a ship... A pretty big one... It can't operate in daylight close to hostile shores and hope to remain undetected. Unless it also has an invisibility cloak it isn't stealthy at all compared to a submarine.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 03:31:16 PM »
 :rofl
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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 08:06:03 PM »
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Re: Stealth destroyer
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 10:36:52 PM »
Just out of hindsight, why the hell does the US Navy need a stealth destroyer.  What navy out there could compete with the US navy right now. 

  For now, maybe.  But history has proven repeatedly that when you get complacent, someone comes out with something bigger and better.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 10:38:50 PM »
There's not much point being stealthy if you're sitting just a few miles from something like a carrier, which has the radar cross-section of a small planetoid. 

   Actually, I think that would be a pretty good tactic.  While you are busy shooting at the great big ship, some stealth ship is sitting there swatting your missiles.    :neener:   :lol
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