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Re: FM2
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 05:12:49 PM »
George Bush flew 58 combat missions in TBM's off the San Jacinto.  Ed McMahon was an instructor Marine fighter pilot.  Tyrone Power was a transport pilot in the Pacific.

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Re: FM2
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
Mr. Wizard was a B-24 pilot.
Tom Landry was a B-17 pilot.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 06:49:50 PM »
Celebs that served during WWII (whether pilots or not):


Don Adams (1923-2005) [Get Smart, tv] served with the U.S. Marine Corps during WW II in the Pacific. He was wounded during the Battle of Guadalcanal and he contracted malaria, nearly dying of blackwater fever. Upon his recovery and return to the States, he served as a drill instructor.


Robert Altman (1925-2006) [The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947); co-wrote screenplay: Bodyguard (1948)] was born in Kansas City, Missouri, to B.C. (an insurance salesman) and Helen Altman. He entered St. Peters Catholic school at the age six, and spent a short time at a Catholic high school. From there, he went to Rockhurst High School. It was then that he became interested in the art of exploring sound with the cheap tape recorders available at the time. He was later sent to Wentworth Military Academy in Lexington, Missouri where he attended through Junior College. In 1945, he enlisted in the Air Force and became a B-24 co-pilot with the 307th Bomb Group.. After his discharge from the military, he became fascinated by movies and he and his first wife, LaVonne Elmer, moved to Hollywood.


James Arness (1923-2011) [Island in the Sky (1953); tv Gunsmoke (1955-1975)]. Served in the U.S. Army during WW II and was severely wounded in the Battle of Anzio, leading to a lifelong limp. His military awards and medals include: the Bronze Star; the Purple Heart; the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with three bronze star devices; World War II Victory Medal; and the Combat Infantryman's Badge.


Gene Autry (1907-1998) [singing cowboy in westerns] joined the Army Air Forces in 1942 and became Sgt. Gene Autry. During the war he ferried fuel, ammunition, and arms in the China-India-Burma theater of war and flew over the Himalayas, the hazardous air route known as "The Hump." When the war ended, Autry was reassigned to Special Services where he toured with a USO troupe in the South Pacific before resuming his movie career in 1946.


Martin Balsam (1914-1996) was an American character actor. He studied dramatics at the New School in New York City and then served in the Army Air Corps during World War II. In 1947 he was selected by Elia Kazan and Lee Strasberg to be a player in the Actors' Studio television program and went on to appear in a number of television plays in the 1950s and returned frequently to television as a guest star on numerous dramas. Balsam appeared in such film as On the Waterfront (1954); as Juror #1 in 12 Angry Men (1957); Psycho (1960); as the police chief in Cape Fear (1962); Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961); Seven Days in May (1964); Catch-22 (1970); and Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970). In 1967 he won a Tony Award for his appearance in the 1967 Broadway production of You Know I Can't Hear You When the Water's Running.


Charles Bronson (1921-2003) [The Great Escape (1963); Death Wish (1974)]. Joined the Army Air Forces in 1943 and served as an aircraft gunner in the 760th Flexible Gunnery Training Squadron, and in 1945 as a B-29 Superfortress tail gunner with the 39th Bombardment Group based on Guam. He also served on Tinian and Saipan. He was awarded a Purple Heart for wounds received during his service.


Jeff Corey (1914-2002) [My Friend Flicka (1943); Joan of Arc (1948); Home of the Brave (1949)]. He was born in Brooklyn, New York and became a film and television character actor as well as one of the top acting teachers in America. He joined the U.S. Navy Photographic Service in 1943 and was assigned to the aircraft carrier Yorktown as a motion picture combat photographer. He earned three citations while serving during the War, including one for shooting footage on the Yorktown during a kamikaze attack on the ship. The citation, which was awarded in October 1945, read: "His sequence of a Kamikaze attempt on the Carrier Yorktown, done in the face of grave danger, is one of the great picture sequences of the war in the Pacific, and reflects the highest credit upon Corey and the U.S. Navy Photographic Service." [Text excerpted from IMDB]

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Re: FM2
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 07:10:49 PM »

Russell Johnson (1924- ) [The Professor on Gilligan's Island]. Earned a Purple Heart for injuries during battle when his B-24 Liberator bomber was shot down during a bombing run against Japanese targets in the Philippine Islands in March 1945.


Brian Keith (1921-1997) [The Violent Men (1955); The Rare Breed (1966)]. Served as a U.S. Marine (1942-1945). He was an air gunner in several actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific and received an Air Medal.


George Kennedy (1925- ) [The Dirty Dozen (1967); Airport '77 (1977)]. He enlisted in the Army during World War II and went on to serve 16 years, both in combat as an officer under Gen. George Patton, and in his later years, as an Armed Forces Radio and Television officer. He portrayed Patton in the 78 movie Brass Target. Due to his tall, enormously broad frame, Kennedy was frequently cast in the 1960s and 1970s as bullies and thugs, and had the distinction of brutalizing stars like Cary Grant, Paul Newman and Clint Eastwood on screen while gaining a reputation off-screen as one of the nicest actors around. By his 60s he finally got the chance to play friendlier characters, such as his lovable Capt. Ed Hocken in the Naked Gun films.

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Re: FM2
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2013, 03:20:34 PM »
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Russell Johnson (1924- ) [The Professor on Gilligan's Island]. Earned a Purple Heart for injuries during battle when his B-24 Liberator bomber was shot down during a bombing run against Japanese targets in the Philippine Islands in March 1945.

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Brian Keith (1921-1997) [The Violent Men (1955); The Rare Breed (1966)]. Served as a U.S. Marine (1942-1945). He was an air gunner in several actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific and received an Air Medal.

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George Kennedy (1925- ) [The Dirty Dozen (1967); Airport '77 (1977)]. He enlisted in the Army during World War II and went on to serve 16 years, both in combat as an officer under Gen. George Patton, and in his later years, as an Armed Forces Radio and Television officer. He portrayed Patton in the 78 movie Brass Target. Due to his tall, enormously broad frame, Kennedy was frequently cast in the 1960s and 1970s as bullies and thugs, and had the distinction of brutalizing stars like Cary Grant, Paul Newman and Clint Eastwood on screen while gaining a reputation off-screen as one of the nicest actors around. By his 60s he finally got the chance to play friendlier characters, such as his lovable Capt. Ed Hocken in the Naked Gun films.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2013, 09:52:27 AM »
Hollywood stars of the 1940s put careers on hold to fight for freedom. Movie stars of World War II earned more than 300 medals and awards that honor their valor. U.S. awards and medals include Silver Stars, Distinguish Service Crosses, Air Medals, Bronze Stars, Presidential Unit Citations, Purple Hearts, and a Congressional Medal of Honor.

Number of Hollywood stars of the 2000's that put careers on hold to fight: 0
Number of awards earned: 0
Number of medals earned: 0
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2013, 10:49:46 AM »
I don't exactly know that you can compare the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to WWII, though. Certainly not without Skuzzy busting down the door with the ban hammer.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2013, 12:38:35 PM »
I don't exactly know that you can compare the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to WWII, though. Certainly not without Skuzzy busting down the door with the ban hammer.
Just a simple observation Saxman.  People can take from it what they will.   :D
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Re: FM2
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2013, 01:32:12 PM »
Great post!

Joe Foss, founder of the AFL and youngest Governer of South Dakota was the leading Marine ace in WWII and was with the Cactus AF.

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Re: FM2
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2013, 04:11:28 AM »

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Charles Bronson (1921-2003) [The Great Escape (1963); Death Wish (1974)]. Joined the Army Air Forces in 1943 and served as an aircraft gunner in the 760th Flexible Gunnery Training Squadron, and in 1945 as a B-29 Superfortress tail gunner with the 39th Bombardment Group based on Guam. He also served on Tinian and Saipan. He was awarded a Purple Heart for wounds received during his service.

Wow, I wouldn't want to be the one staring down the barrel held by Charles Bronson...
He was probably blasting away at the zeros with his 6 shooter! "Once upon a time in the west" is one of my all time favorites.

Compare those guys to modern hollywood stars. I remember there were some issues with Silvester Stallone et al. filming "Rambo 3" in Israel for fear of terrorism... oh the irony.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2013, 12:12:32 AM »
And not to forget: (From Wikipedia)


Audie Leon Murphy (June 20, 1925 – May 28, 1971) was one of the most famous and decorated American combat soldiers of World War II. He was awarded every U.S. military combat award for valor available from the U.S. Army, and was also decorated by France and Belgium. He served in the Mediterranean and European Theater of Operations. He was presented the Medal of Honor for his defensive actions against German troops on January 26, 1945, at the Colmar Pocket near Holtzwihr, France. During an hour-long siege, he stood alone on a burning tank destroyer firing a machine gun at attacking German soldiers and tanks. Wounded and out of ammunition, Murphy climbed off the tank, refused medical attention, and led his men on a successful counter assault. In 2013, he was posthumously awarded the Texas Legislative Medal of Honor.

When he heard the news of Japan's December 7 attack on Pearl Harbor he tried to enlist in the Marines, the Navy and the Army, but was turned down for being underweight and underage. He added weight with a change in diet, and gave the Army a sworn affidavit from his sister Corrine that falsified his birth date by a year. Murphy enlisted on June 30, 1942 in Dallas. During his physical examination his height was registered as 5 feet 5.5 inches and his weight as 112 pounds.

Murphy was plagued by insomnia and bouts of depression, related to his military service. He slept with a loaded pistol under his pillow. A post-service medical examination on June 17, 1947, revealed symptoms of headaches, vomiting, and nightmares about war. The medical record shows that sleeping pills helped prevent the nightmares. During the mid-1960s, he recognized his dependence on Placidyl, and locked himself alone in a hotel room for a week to successfully break the addiction.  Post-traumatic stress levels exacerbated his innate moodiness, and surfaced in episodes that friends and professional colleagues found alarming.  His first wife, Wanda Hendrix, stated that he once held her at gunpoint. She witnessed her husband being moved to tears by newsreel footage of German war orphans, guilt-ridden that his war actions might have been the cause of their having no parents. Murphy briefly found a creative stress outlet in writing poetry after his Army discharge. His poem "The Crosses Grow on Anzio" appeared in his book To Hell and Back, but was attributed to the fictitiously named Kerrigan.
In an effort to draw attention to the problems of returning Korean War and Vietnam War veterans, Murphy spoke out candidly about his own problems with post-traumatic stress disorder. It was known during Murphy's lifetime as "battle fatigue" and "shell shock", terminology that dated back to World War I. He called on the government to give increased consideration and study to the emotional impact of combat experiences, and to extend health care benefits to war veterans. As a result of legislation introduced by U.S. Congressman Olin Teague five months after Murphy's 1971 death, the Audie L. Murphy Memorial Veterans Hospital in San Antonio was dedicated in 1973 and is now a part of the South Texas Veterans Health Care System.

After the war, they took Army dogs and rehabilitated them for civilian life. But they turned soldiers into civilians immediately, and let 'em sink or swim.

He appeared in 44 films throughout his career. During the 1950s and 1960s, he was cast primarily in Westerns. In 1955, he played himself in the film To Hell and Back which became the biggest hit in the history of Universal Studios at the time. He performed in a handful of television productions and was the star of the Whispering Smith series.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2013, 03:51:12 AM »
Fm-2 seems to have a good dive-speed turns good, but have inferior guns, it also lacks much of the ruggedness it should have, for example the Yak3 seems to soak up about 3 times more 20mm before it decides to die, than the Fm2.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2013, 04:58:09 AM »
I agree with Save on his perception of its ruggedness.  The IL2 seems easier for me to down than a Yak3 for that matter.
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Re: FM2
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2013, 12:39:16 PM »
"To Hell and Back," by Audie Murphy is an excellent book.

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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2013, 02:02:35 PM »
Hollywood stars of the 1940s put careers on hold to fight for freedom. Movie stars of World War II earned more than 300 medals and awards that honor their valor. U.S. awards and medals include Silver Stars, Distinguish Service Crosses, Air Medals, Bronze Stars, Presidential Unit Citations, Purple Hearts, and a Congressional Medal of Honor.

Number of Hollywood stars of the 2000's that put careers on hold to fight: 0
Number of awards earned: 0
Number of medals earned: 0
True that no Hollywood big shots have served in recent campaigns but don't forget about Pat Tillman. He gave up his pro football career and ended up paying the ultimate sacrifice.... Just wanted to point that out, sorry for the hi-jack. Now back to the FM-2 discussion!

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