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Offline Lusche

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Re: guns
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 01:47:34 PM »
Handling, which I would consider to be a facet of a plane's performance. And at high altitude, I feel the A-8's handling suffers to such a degree that it offsets it's engine performance advantage over the 410.

But he didn't ask for the plane performance, his question was strictly about the "best gunset", that's why I wondered how altitude had any influence on the guns relative to each other,.
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2013, 01:57:23 PM »
But he didn't ask for the plane performance, his question was strictly about the "best gunset", that's why I wondered how altitude had any influence on the guns relative to each other,.

He revised it to include performance.
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2013, 02:46:03 PM »
I will argue that the best "Deacker" doesn't need great guns.

Personally I use the FW190F8 with 12 rickets and one bomb. Bomb on radar and rockets on ack. The old maps I could hit the auto guns in 2 passes. New maps it takes 3(trying to figure it out). Upon deack complete you will have a good amount of cannon left for anything from troops to fuel.

Best pork run was all auto/man gun down, dar down, and ord down. All auto includes town ack.

I feel 262s aren't good at attacking buffs. From a gunner side they are one of the easiest planes to hit. Yes they can explode planes pretty easy but they aren't good at taking a beating. I would use a 190.

Mossy easily has best gun/ views in game. Fighter on Fighter its the best for making the shot, not so much getting position for the shot.

Il2 best guns for sure but sense they needed the F3(Thank You HTC) I'd say the Stuka is best observer/tank killer. A20 being the best overall but we aren't talking about bombs here.


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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2013, 02:50:29 PM »
Best is going to come down to what works for you.  For buffs I like Jugs.  For deacking I like the Dora or P-39Q or Yak-9T.  Gv's I like the Hurricane IId.  Taking out fighters?  Man that list is long...  Best defensive argument, B-29's, but they are very rare and usually very high.  So I would say B-17's.  Attacking a B-17 is like kicking a porcupine with flip flops on, you might hurt the porcupine, but it sure is gonna hurt when you kick it...  :uhoh

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2013, 03:08:45 PM »
   Attacking a B-17 is like kicking a porcupine with flip flops on, you might hurt the porcupine, but it sure is gonna hurt when you kick it...  :uhoh

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2013, 04:13:01 PM »
I prefer the p38 because it has good guns, powerful engines, and an EXCELLENT 360 degree view. It can carry bombs, it can carry rockets, and it can fight with the best of them  :joystick:
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2013, 04:17:18 PM »
I actually find the views on the P-38 to be mediocre due to the mid wings and twin engines.
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 04:36:12 PM »
Best plane for shooting down bombers is a SPD  They are great because their speed matches a B17 for a perfectly lined up dead six shot. 999000 <S>

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2013, 04:46:28 PM »
Best plane for shooting down bombers is a SPD  They are great because their speed matches a B17 for a perfectly lined up dead six shot. 999000 <S>
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2013, 05:15:42 PM »

4.De-acking/defueling bases


B-25H.  No other plane in this game can deack a base from the ranges the B-25H can and you don't need to score a direct hit.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2013, 05:59:47 PM »
B-25H.  No other plane in this game can deack a base from the ranges the B-25H can and you don't need to score a direct hit.

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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2013, 06:43:13 PM »
The reason I placed it at the top for deacking.

a tank on a hill can deack for further out.  but be realistic, a b25 wont be able to deack much with fighters around.



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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2013, 06:57:51 PM »
a tank on a hill can deack for further out.  but be realistic, a b25 wont be able to deack much with fighters around.



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Or a manned gun. Or a wirb or ostie. Or an 88. The B-25H has a lot of potential, but there's just so few opportunities to apply its firepower before you yourself go down in a flaming wreck.
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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2013, 09:03:19 PM »
a tank on a hill can deack for further out.  but be realistic, a b25 wont be able to deack much with fighters around.



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True, but the original question was purely about gun packages so that wasn't a factor.
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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2013, 09:08:40 PM »
True, but the original question was purely about gun packages so that wasn't a factor.

a tank does have a gun.


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