Long live the USA (guns)

[Flench]

Cool mbailey but I would not have change it screw him . MAde a nice mount .

[mbailey]

lol  yea......but I dont want to miss anything in the Fishing thread       Havent been out for 2 months and im living vicariously thru u guys 

[Flench]

I'm going squirrel hunting this afternoon . I make up for it with them all across my truck hood , lol .

[VonMessa]

Depends...Long term steel is best.

Aluminium is a good second...

I am going to be upgrading to an auto caster soon so....

It just gets weird after that!

For one off stuff I could use green sand or ceramics and the list goes on.

Are you in the machining business?  

You could make some dough cutting molds and put up a sign saying "due to the overwhelming volume of requests we are not taking on new business"

TES

Oh...and heres more from the same guy...

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Although I don't do it for a living anymore, I have the ability to machine.   

[Flench]

What all do I need to start reloading a 9mm and a 270 . I have scales . Do they use a 409 primer like on a shotgun hull ? Can someone give me a link to a good site that well help me out with a little info  .

[Triton28]

What all do I need to start reloading a 9mm and a 270 . I have scales . Do they use a 409 primer like on a shotgun hull ? Can someone give me a link to a good site that well help me out with a little info  .

If I were you, I'd start with an RCBS Rockchucker Master Kit:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/646599/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-single-stage-press-master-kit

In addition, you'd need .270 and 9mm dies and shell holders for the press.  

As for primers, no, the 9mm takes small pistol primers and the .270 takes large rifle primers.  

If you ever get into a higher volume of reloading, you could then go for a progressive press.  But IMO, that's only when you start wanting to pump out hundreds of rounds in a short period of time.  For loading hunting rounds and low volume plinking rounds, the single stage is more than adequate.  


Edit - search youtube.  There are tons of good videos on the basics.   

[Flench]

Thanks Triton28 , Yeah I see every thing is different than what I'm use too loading shotgun shell's .

[ReVo]

I don't suppose you do 7.62x25, ToeTag? 

[BreakingBad]

The purpose for the second amendment is to make sure that the government cannot be the only one with weapons. So that what the torries did can never happen again.

Afraid that is only partially correct, the 2nd amendment is based from English common law that supports "the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state"

Guns do only one thing, kill. I have no desire to kill anyone or anything. So I wonder what the fascination with guns are.

You might change your tune if you have to defend your home and family.  There is a genuine disincentive for criminals to target random homes, because they never know if the owner has a gun and is going to shoot their bellybutton off.

I'll leave you with words from the late Andy Rooney "If staplers are made illegal, then only criminals would use them"

Think about that for a moment.

[Rich46yo]

Very nice Rich . I don't care what people say but one can not beet a Browning . Best gun's ever made . The Boss system just make's them even better .

That your deer mbailey , nice . EDIT: I see you fixed it .

Yeah I love my Browning. Yet my Rem-700 is scarey accurate too. My old style Win M-70 in .375 H&H is a honey, Marlin levers, Browning levers...ect. You can go on forever. But my stainless Browning .338 did exactly what i wanted it to. It traveled thru the Rockies, Africa, Newfoundland, numerous times and took my game sufficiently while beating the elements.

It did nothing my '06 or 7mm couldnt do but it does do it with more authority.

[ToeTag]

I don't suppose you do 7.62x25, ToeTag? 

Nope.  Rifle is just soooooo hit or miss. ( I know)  If you don't have the right weight and ballistic tip color you get shunned. So you have to sell way to many varieties of the same sandwich......Just pistol for me....for now 

[ReVo]

Nope.  Rifle is just soooooo hit or miss. ( I know)  If you don't have the right weight and ballistic tip color you get shunned. So you have to sell way to many varieties of the same sandwich......Just pistol for me....for now 

Thats good 'cause I was asking about the 7.62x25 Tokarev, the pistol round. 

[Rich46yo]

I reload only rifle and specialty pistol rounds. Well, I used to. Back then it was easy to buy stuff like 9mm, .38, 5.56, 7.62x39, in bulk and you never had to worry about reloading them. So I only used my RCBS single for pistol stuff like .45 Colt "THERE IS NO LONG COLT", and .454 Casull. .45 everything included a .450 Marlin.

Single loading with extreme precision will give very large accuracy improvements with rifles. Measuring the chamber throat, trimming cases to best length, "exactly" measuring powder, checking and measuring "each" bullet seat, weighing individual cases and using only one from the same lot, weighing individual bullets...and on and on it goes. I could take an entire day reloading just one batch of loads.

This of course after finding out what kind of bullet your rifle likes, what kind of seat, what kind of primer and powder charge. Each rifle is its own law and its why you could buy 10 of the same rifles and each will probably like a different load then the others. Extreme accuracy is just a hobby, its not necessary for successful hunting or enjoying your sport shooting. Its just a hobby,  and a fun one.

[ToeTag]

Thats good 'cause I was asking about the 7.62x25 Tokarev, the pistol round. 

Sorry.....I see 7.62 and an automatic response comes out of my mouth. 

I could if there was demand to counter the cost of molds dies etc...

[-ammo-]

Single loading with extreme precision will give very large accuracy improvements with rifles. Measuring the chamber throat, trimming cases to best length, "exactly" measuring powder, checking and measuring "each" bullet seat, weighing individual cases and using only one from the same lot, weighing individual bullets...and on and on it goes. I could take an entire day reloading just one batch of loads.

This of course after finding out what kind of bullet your rifle likes, what kind of seat, what kind of primer and powder charge. Each rifle is its own law and its why you could buy 10 of the same rifles and each will probably like a different load then the others. Extreme accuracy is just a hobby, its not necessary for successful hunting or enjoying your sport shooting. Its just a hobby,  and a fun one.

Just want to piggy back on this.  I had dyes for 4 rifle calibers and one handgun caliber; 30-06, 308 Winchester, 270 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag, and 44 Rem Mag.  My uncle bought me a Basic RCBS reloading kit in 1993  and originally I only wanted to make premium hunting ammo for a fraction of what it cost in the stores.  This was too easy to do back then when components were so cheap.  I could build a quality round with a Speer or Nosler bullet for about 10 cents a piece.  Wasn't long I started messing around around with working up loads for the sole purpose of getting "belted magnum" performance out of my 24" barreled Winchester Model 70 (30-06).  I chrono'd 165 grain rounds  over 3000 fps with no high pressure signs.  While working up loads 1/2 grain at a time, I found my rifle would  print MOA groups at certain pressure levels. My quest to find that consistent MOA load began.  As time went by, I purchased a Remington Model 700 in 308 and a Ruger Redhawk in 44 Mag.  I bought dyes and components for these calibers and had a hoot of time just poking holes in paper looking for that magic load.  

I have a buddy who asked me to make work him up a 130 grain load for his 270 Winchester Bar.  We had such great results that he became a regular "customer".   Word got around around in our "hunters circles" and soon I was building ammo for other guys too.  I had strict rules in this regard.  I would not allow them to supply fired brass for one.  I would always buy new brass.  Also, I never loaded at or exceeded a published maximum load.  

Reloading is an absolute blast.  I used a weighted scale and a teaspoon to measure every charge  - down to the grain.  I trimmed and de-burred every case to perfection.  I measured the throat of every firearm I reloaded for to gain the absolute best bullet seating depth for each.  All of these steps gave me great results.