Fear the Pony

[DmonSlyr]

I pwn all P51 pilots.....well besides the ones who run away from me.... Next.

[Fulcrum]

I remember OlDemon...he was good.  

I admit I had forgotten about SkatSr....

[DmonSlyr]

Id probably say as of right now, Tonyjoey is the best in the p51. He's the only one I see who consistently lands 8+more kills at one time in the p51. Not to mention hes a pretty good stick in the DA too.

Steve was pretty good, Oldemon was pretty good, Skatsr was good, I mean it's a p51 for christ sakes.

It's an easy mode plane, that has a decent turn rate but I woudn't be cought turn fighting someone who was good in a N1k or F4U.

Pretty much the plane is best for BnZ guys who like to run and extend all the time after they miss their initial shot.

I don't fly it often because I do not liking running, and most of the time, a spit, N1K, f4u, ki84, hurr, 109,sometimes a p47m def 11, yak,  will always beat it in a turn/stall  fight. The plane is exactly realistic as far as WW2, it's fast, dives great, decent acceleration, catch it in the climb its toast, catch it trying to stall fight, generally its toast.

arguing who is the best in a p51 is like arguing who is the best at Picking and running in the game.

 

[Chief]

 
not saying im the best or anything, but I am becoming a better Pony pilot by using its advantage which is Speed. I would love to train with the best in the Pony since its my plane of choice...been flying for about 6 months, and I have much to learn. Higheye has been showing me the ropes, but Im always willing to learn some more tricks from some different dogs.

No disrespect , when I first played this game there was a handle that went by Adog31st or Adog81st Idunno, but he was a great trainer and pony pilot. Lately I been seeing the guy ROCKY own the sky in a Pony. TonyJoey is a beast, like Marshawn Lynch against an opposing defense, you need a team to stop him.

[Sunka]

Calling it an easy mode plane repeating what you herd like a parrot, its a wrong statement.
 A easy mode plane flys like an arcade game or in AW. Like a spit you can turn fight all day long pull out of a stall and need no real ability to keep from smacking the ground,like the Brew and a "few" other planes.

The 51 is just a fast plane but if you want to turn fight it is hardly an easy plane to be a success in. Unlike say a 109 or hog that can dive ,turn on a dime and great power at fighting speeds.
Looking at stats many planes are way better fighters then 51's ,so when i here its an easy mode plane i think your a kind of player the 8th man in chasing someone just cause you do and say what you here and see.

 

[LilMak]

No disrespect , when I first played this game there was a handle that went by Adog31st or Adog81st Idunno, but he was a great trainer and pony pilot. Lately I been seeing the guy ROCKY own the sky in a Pony. TonyJoey is a beast, like Marshawn Lynch against an opposing defense, you need a team to stop him.

Tony is very good.
Rocky, on the other hand, is useless without bait.

[Changeup]

Unlike say a 109

 

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I am new to the 109 so by no means any experten.  It doesn't turn right for poo.  So how can it turn on a dime if it's behind you and you turn hard right?  The only well, right-turning 109 variant is the F. 

You should fly the 109 into a horde to check your math sir.  The 109 does not turn on a dime.  It does stop on a dime but that only gets you dead unless it's 1 v 2 and you are an incredible shot on the opponents overshoot.

You need to reconsider.

[Changeup]

Tony is very good.
Rocky, on the other hand, is useless without bait.

+1,342,498

[Debrody]

The 109 turns left n right just the same  

[LCADolby]

+1,342,498

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[Fulcrum]

Tony is very good.
Rocky, on the other hand, is useless without bait.

Agreed.  I like Rocky, but he does wait for the right moment to pounce and has a very limited number of viable options once he commits.


Tony is in another league altogether.



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*Tony is in another league...all together*

[Scca]

Calling it an easy mode plane repeating what you herd like a parrot, its a wrong statement.
 A easy mode plane flys like an arcade game or in AW. Like a spit you can turn fight all day long pull out of a stall and need no real ability to keep from smacking the ground,like the Brew and a "few" other planes.

The 51 is just a fast plane but if you want to turn fight it is hardly an easy plane to be a success in. Unlike say a 109 or hog that can dive ,turn on a dime and great power at fighting speeds.
Looking at stats many planes are way better fighters then 51's ,so when i here its an easy mode plane i think your a kind of player the 8th man in chasing someone just cause you do and say what you here and see.

 

I have to disagree to an extent...  The 51 is a pretty decent turner compared to a 190D (the next most timidly flown plane).  The 51 offers a great deal more than 99% of the players give it credit for.  Too many players (including the "great" 51 drivers) have a "one pass haul (you know)" mentality.  Sure, there are a few that actually will stay around and fight even from a disadvantage.  I respect those that do far more than the guy with a 9-1 KD who only picks from the edges of a fight, diving out and running to their ack when a dot appears higher than them. 

Of course, I may see more of these sissy's because I go looking for them.  I laugh with glee when they go from 18K to the deck trying to stay alive.

[david625]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I am new to the 109 so by no means any experten.  It doesn't turn right for poo.  So how can it turn on a dime if it's behind you and you turn hard right?  The only well, right-turning 109 variant is the F. 

You should fly the 109 into a horde to check your math sir.  The 109 does not turn on a dime.  It does stop on a dime but that only gets you dead unless it's 1 v 2 and you are an incredible shot on the opponents overshoot.

You need to reconsider.

The 109g2 turns about as good as the F. If you ever plan on turning do not bring gunpods as it will decrease your moves significantly.
In a situation where your enemy turns right and enters a 180 degree turn you could pull up, and then turn left and back onto his 6.
The 109 does have a little trouble with turn rate to the right due to the power of the engine pulling left, however this can be solved through trim adjustments if it bothers you enough.

I personally do not feel that the difference is so drastic that I have to really worry about it. I do my best to stay out of turn fights when I am flying the 109 especially with a spitfire, la, or zero. Some are unavoidable though!
The cool thing with the 109's are the slats on the wings that kick in when you are getting too slow. They give you a little boost in your turn but beware! Push your plane to hard in a turn with slats out and you will find yourself in a first class trip to the ground!
I am fairly new(1 month) but I have flown the 109 exclusively in other games and know how she handles pretty well. Knowing how to adjust the throttle, kick WEP on, and using flaps all at the right time(along with trim), will help you in defeating a better turning plane than you. It is not an easy task though  
 

[Sunka]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I am new to the 109 so by no means any experten.  It doesn't turn right for poo.  So how can it turn on a dime if it's behind you and you turn hard right?  The only well, right-turning 109 variant is the F.  

You should fly the 109 into a horde to check your math sir.  The 109 does not turn on a dime.  It does stop on a dime but that only gets you dead unless it's 1 v 2 and you are an incredible shot on the opponents overshoot.

You need to reconsider.

You can out turn many many planes to the left though,and get off the throttle a bit i'll turn right with a lot.I fly em a lot and love em,but they are really good turners.

[DmonSlyr]

I have flown the 109 for many many years in AH..

the 109 is not the best turner in the game.

However, it can turn quite well unexpectedly if you are not careful. The plane has great low and slow characteristics as far as stalling below 130 mph. It can handle the rolling scissors better than most planes in the game. I use a secret tactic about to the roll and engine that I will not share on the BB.

any 109 will beat the hell out of any p51 1 v 1. The p51 only has a speed/dive advantage.

No the 109 does not dive well. above 460, your looking at ailerons, elevators freezing up, death if not careful.

the E and F series 109s can out turn most spit pilots in the game. Spit V may give it a hard time.

I love 1 v 1 almost any plane in the 109 cause it can trump most unexpected pilots. The hardest fights are against a good N1K, Ki84, a good spit, or F4U. Typically you work it into a furball, your not looking for speed or alt measures, you mainly attack co-alt, or lower planes and use slight E advantage to use the cut inside maneuver and knock them down.

The 109 has some of the best defensive over shoot tactics to use against BnZers.

Personally I think it takes way more skill to learn the 109s than the p51, If the P51 had a better turn rate it would be a beast of a plane, but most people are afraid to get low and slow in the MA.