Fear the Pony

[david625]

I know the F can out turn the G. I never said the G can turn with the F.

To JO: The reason you have to yank so hard to roll over to the right is because the 109 engine's torque pushes so hard to the left.

[Changeup]

I know the F can out turn the G. I never said the G can turn with the F.

To JO: The reason you have to yank so hard to roll over to the right is because the 109 engine's torque pushes so hard to the left.

(David, just a hint here.  JO is about as good as they get in the game we call AH.  He's knows this.  He was just letting you know that he knows. <insert smiley face here>)

[morfiend]

 All the 109's have some difficulty rolling or banking to the right at low airspeeds and high power settings but other than that they will turn right or left just fine!

   The G14 has the most trouble banking right at low speeds with WEP because of the huge increase in power and torque. As for the G2 out turning the F well I don't think so,atleast not in radius,it may have a slight advantage in DPS but I would have to check the stats to be certain.

  Oh and there's a small window in which the 109's can gain angles on a spit,once speed drops to about 190mph you can deploy flaps with the 109 and this will gain you a slight angle advantage. That said if you fly the 109 where you need to gain an angle in a 1 circle fight you are going about it wrong.


   YMMV!



    

[Changeup]

All the 109's have some difficulty rolling or banking to the right at low airspeeds and high power settings but other than that they will turn right or left just fine!

   The G14 has the most trouble banking right at low speeds with WEP because of the huge increase in power and torque. As for the G2 out turning the F well I don't think so,atleast not in radius,it may have a slight advantage in DPS but I would have to check the stats to be certain.

  Oh and there's a small window in which the 109's can gain angles on a spit,once speed drops to about 190mph you can deploy flaps with the 109 and this will gain you a slight angle advantage. That said if you fly the 109 where you need to gain an angle in a 1 circle fight you are going about it wrong.


   YMMV!



    

They all turn right, yes sir.  They just do it real, real ugly.

[DmonSlyr]

Like I said, the 109 has a special right turn maneuver. Its deadly and catches most off guard. I shall not speak any further on this detail.

[morfiend]

They all turn right, yes sir.  They just do it real, real ugly.

  Well I guess that depends on who's flying it because I think I look quite good going right in a 109....


  All you need do is reduce power slightly,roll to the right to set bank angle then turn.You need to reapply power smoothly so you don't snap it over to the left,this is especially important with the G14 do to the large increase in torque and power with WEP.

    YMMV.



   

[DREDIOCK]

We run into each other more than you think....you are just not aware of it because a.) I'm not one you get kills on normally, b.) i can't climb up to you because of the E advantage you usually possess, and c.) I can't catch your Dora when you disengage.  

Yes, everyone vulches once in a while....I just can't recall a time I've run into you where you are not vulching...which was the point of my statement.  

I was not being critical of your style (to each their own)...I just found your comments ironic given the style of flying I've observed is very similar to that assigned to the "typical pony pilot" (if there is such a beast).  I admit this may be an unfair assessment as my sample of observations is far from complete.

As for running with "the horde"...no, not really.  I find that type of fight boring. That being said, like vulching one will at times find themselves with "the horde" on occasion.   One of my frustrations these days is you can rarely find anyone flying alone or in small groups to engage away from the huge furball fights...but that is the nature of the game these days I suppose.

Well then. What do you normally fly? I don't see how you couldn't have gotten a kill on me when I am at your base unless you're flying something really slow. Everyone elses manages to. You are probably timing your turns wrong and burning too much e trying to stay with me when I do my low alt split S or slash and dash.  

But survival isnt my main goal when you see me harassing bases like that. My main goal is to be as annoying as possible and keep as many people busy as possible for as long as I can. LOL For example I counted no less then 8 people chasing me the other night. If one person can keep 8 people occupied for only a couple of minutes. Thats 8 less people my home base has to defend against and often is just enough time to turn the advantage in our favor or at least enough time to regroup.

 Believe it or not. The vast majority of kills you hear of me getting are not from vulches.  I usually dont survive those runs on bases to be able to RTB. And when I do if the number is significant. I'll say they were vulches to the WTGs.

And I prefer the evenly matched furball to the horde or either side. But often. We are dealing with a horde so I do whats needed as opposed to what I want

[DREDIOCK]

I know the F can out turn the G. I never said the G can turn with the F.

To JO: The reason you have to yank so hard to roll over to the right is because the 109 engine's torque pushes so hard to the left.

Also most people break left. So the reaction is what they are used to as opposed to breaking to the right

[Sunka]

I am new to the 109 so by no means any experten.

Plenty of players that know why more then me about 109's and Morf whom is a great trainer have been trying to explain.
I like you but stop trying to be right.   
 

[Aspen]

As far as running into a Pony co E, getting surprised by how its handled and getting killed, BigR stands out.  

[JOACH1M]

Like I said, the 109 has a special right turn maneuver. Its deadly and catches most off guard. I shall not speak any further on this detail.

indeed once perfected you can get some good ol fashion kills.

[JOACH1M]

(David, just a hint here.  JO is about as good as they get in the game we call AH.  He's knows this.  He was just letting you know that he knows. <insert smiley face here>)

I know the F can out turn the G. I never said the G can turn with the F.

To JO: The reason you have to yank so hard to roll over to the right is because the 109 engine's torque pushes so hard to the left.

   

[JOACH1M]

All the 109's have some difficulty rolling or banking to the right at low airspeeds and high power settings but other than that they will turn right or left just fine!

   The G14 has the most trouble banking right at low speeds with WEP because of the huge increase in power and torque. As for the G2 out turning the F well I don't think so,atleast not in radius,it may have a slight advantage in DPS but I would have to check the stats to be certain.

  Oh and there's a small window in which the 109's can gain angles on a spit,once speed drops to about 190mph you can deploy flaps with the 109 and this will gain you a slight angle advantage. That said if you fly the 109 where you need to gain an angle in a 1 circle fight you are going about it wrong.


   YMMV!



    

cant agree more with the last state meant.

I'd like to add that with a 109 vs spit match up the 109 has more flaps that can also deploy at higher speeds (like morph said) but the 109 also IMO has an ability to use climb more than a spit. The spit can turn, but can't turn and climb like the 109 can.

[Changeup]

Plenty of players that know why more then me about 109's and Morf whom is a great trainer have been trying to explain.
I like you but stop trying to be right.  
 

Morf knew what point I was trying to make and did a much better job pointing out what I did not.  Throttle back I right turns in 109s.  Alas, my point made.  In other planes you don't have to do that.

So, do it twice in right flat turns and you escape.  Unless your fighting Sunsfan and guess which way he never turns when you turn right? Lol.  He goes up.  See what I did there?  

I'm super glad you like me

[GhostCDB]

Just fly and stop thinking of the technicalities of the game.