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Offline GScholz

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Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« on: November 19, 2013, 05:22:03 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g

Most impressive!

Lars Andersen, a danish archer, is rediscovering the ancient techniques of the masters of archery.
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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 06:08:33 PM »
Very impressive.

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 06:14:38 PM »
  That guy is good.  :aok

  Shot a bow alot when I was younger. Had a 60# longbow very accurate but never was a speed demon. Like sports you should use your instinct to aim. Very interesting the history of the bow. Good Find.
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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 07:49:39 PM »
Very cool video..

Question, tho..    They used a computer voice for the  narration, didn't they?   Very distracting..

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 08:05:04 PM »
Very cool video..

Question, tho..    They used a computer voice for the  narration, didn't they?   Very distracting..



I agree, very distracting.  Could be that they used it for the English translation. 

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2013, 08:18:20 PM »
 :O holy cow...that is friggin awesome. i want to talk to that guy and get some lessons.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2013, 10:38:49 PM »
seen Batty do this, drunk , falling off a horse..
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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2013, 10:51:15 PM »
Wow!

I had no idea, Now, when I think of the stories of the armies of Persia shooting so many arrows into the sky it blotted out the sun, maybe this was involved.

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 01:03:14 PM »
Yes they used some text-to-voice software for the narration. It's probably for the best considering how Danes sound when trying to speak English...
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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 01:06:31 PM »
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 05:17:29 PM »
That's something else...  At first I was thinking he was using a relatively low poundage bow, but watching it a second time, it looks to me like it might not be.

Unreal shooting though.  I did a lot of traditional archery in my teens, and when I was at my best it was like throwing a ball, but my MIND doesn't work as fast as that guy, never mind my body...

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 06:20:31 PM »
i want to know how he knocks the arrows to quickly and accurately...
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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2013, 06:35:43 PM »
i want to know how he knocks the arrows to quickly and accurately...


  Watching the vid I asked myself the same thing,looks like he uses several various finger holds to notch and draw.

   I could ne mistaken but I thought the Persians used Bow rings to draw the bows they used,I do know the Mongols did with their horse bows.

    I would bet the bow used was around a 45# draw,I'm working on a longbow,sort of,it's actually a flat bow that's 72 inches nock to nock and has atleast a 60# draw.  I actually got a scale today to test the draw weight before I put the final finish on it,incase I might need to lighten the draw a wee bit!

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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2013, 06:49:01 PM »
i'm looking into a take down bow with a metal riser and composite limbs around 45-50lbs for small game hunting...if i could shoot the thing like that guy in the video, i could save money on arrows.  :lol
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Re: Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2013, 09:13:44 PM »
i want to know how he knocks the arrows to quickly and accurately...

I'm guessing he's using a pinch draw, rather than a Mediterranean or Mongolian draw/hold.  The pinch draw wasn't uncommon, and it allowed for very quick "indexing" of the nock against the string.

I also suspect he's using an arrow with a different nock style.  Most of us are most familiar with Mediterranean finger holds, and arrows nocked appropriately for that method, but that's far from the only style of nock/hold used traditionally.

With a pinch grip, and a more bulbous, shallow-notched, "cross-nocked" arrow he'd be able to almost ignore the need to line the nock up with the string.  He'd hold multiple arrows in his hand, and just open his thumb to slide the string into his hand, pinch the arrow, and draw, allowing the string to fall into place on the nock on its own.

Imagine a nock that doesn't look so much like a slotted screw on the end, but rather closer to a phillips head screw.  More like this --> (+) than this --> (l).  The notches wouldn't be nearly as deep-cut as we're accustomed to either.

These types of nocks were also more common amongst horse-mounted archers, who might have had difficulty lining up a slotted nock on a bouncing, moving horse.  With these types of nocks, you would also likely see a 2- or 4- fletched arrow, rather than a three-fletched arrow with one fletch being a different color...

The type of archery shown sacrifices accuracy for speed, so the deeper nock and using a fletch to index the arrow on the string goes right out the window.
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