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Offline CAP1

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Re: here i go again
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2013, 03:36:44 PM »
No "if if if" with cars that do not exist yet, at least not for sale.  :)

and already proven slower than the ZL1 Camaro on a road course.....

meh. It's Mustang vs Camaro, your top dog versus theirs. Problem is when Ford went to work on beating the Bowtie Boys, the ZL1 was the top dog. By the time they finally got there, the ZL1 is no longer King and the Z28 is eating the Pony's lunch.

Sorry, ya thought they had caught up and yet they're still one step behind.  :lol




 yea. i did a little more reading on the 28. carbon brakes, no a/c, no stereo, manual seats. sounds like there's gonna be less than 2,000 built, and found something rumoring $66k base price. so essentially, it's a stripped out race car barely street legal. the carbon brakes though will keep it from being legal on factory based types of races, as will the power/weight ratio.

 that all said.....it's still zl1 vs gt500, and the zl1 loses.  :devil to the best of my knowledge, the 28 isn't for sale yet either, as i just went onto chevys website to look at it.....couldn't find it in the ordering....... soooooooo..........

 on the other hand, it looks like this year may be the last for the boss302, as i read on an svt site that they're discontinuing it. i hope that's wrong, but we'll see.........

 annnd finally, since you wanna shift from the zl to the 28, i'll use the same argument that my chevy friends use when they lose to a shelby.....can you imagine if the shelby trimmed 300 pounds like the 28 did? there's that time difference right there.  :devil :bolt:

 I WILL ADD I LOVE THE CAMAROS TOO....IK JUST HAVE FUN WITH THIS STUFF.
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Re: here i go again
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2013, 06:25:30 PM »
  BUT Cap it's still a FORD!!!!


  Cap I saw my uncle awhile back,the retired big cheese from ford and gues what he was driving..... A Porsche SUV!   I asked him if he still got cars from ford for free and he said yes he has a couple at home in FLA. but since he was coming up to Canada he thought he should take his SUV...... :devil   Then he asked how I liked my Honda. :aok



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Re: here i go again
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2013, 08:31:14 PM »
  BUT Cap it's still a FORD!!!!


  Cap I saw my uncle awhile back,the retired big cheese from ford and gues what he was driving..... A Porsche SUV!   I asked him if he still got cars from ford for free and he said yes he has a couple at home in FLA. but since he was coming up to Canada he thought he should take his SUV...... :devil   Then he asked how I liked my Honda. :aok



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 i worked on a couple of those porsche suv's.....cayanne? i think it is? to be honest, i was disappointed with them when i test drove....but then again, with the porsche name on it, i may have been expecting too much from an suv too.

 i gotta go looking........if ford's seriously gonna drop the boss after the 013 model run, it may be time to see how much i can get on my gt for a trade in, and get an 013 boss......
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Re: here i go again
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2013, 09:08:54 PM »
I like the Z28,, had one in high school,,, was thinking I'd get a new one when they get here,,
if it says Shelby on it, it better be a Cobra!! :bolt:

Found this for ya cap1
The dream car of every 1970s teenage boy is making a comeback

Chevrolet is reviving the Z/28 Camaro as a lighter, high-performance version of the muscle car. The Z/28, which debuted in 1967 and was last sold in 2002, has been reengineered for 2014 at 3,800 pounds, about 100 pounds lighter than a standard Camaro. It's designed so that it can hit the racetrack, with the Corvette's powerful V-8 engine and bigger brakes. To shed weight, it forgoes some standard comforts, coming with a one-speaker radio, stiffer seats and manual transmission
"We really wanted to try to get rid of some of the mass and make it a real enthusiasts' car to be able to use for spirited driving on the street and open track days," said Mark Stielow, performance engineering manager for the Z/28.


Air conditioning is optional and there's less sound insulation. Brake rotors are made of carbon and ceramics instead of heavier steel. It's more aerodynamic than a standard Camaro, and the suspension is even stiffer than the ZL1, another high-performance version.

"The whole car has been just kind of tauted up. It's kind of a more performance style car," Stielow said.

Even with the changes, he says the car still handles bumpy roads well, though not as well as a standard Camaro.

Engineers also freshened up the Camaro's profile for 2014, reshaping the front and rear to make it more modern and athletic looking.

Alan Batey, General Motors' U.S. sales chief, said the company doesn't expect to sell a lot of Z/28s, but the car does bring back some of the brand's heritage from days when it dominated U.S. roads.

"You don't do this because of how many you're going to sell. You do this because of the statement it can make and the way it can build the brand," he said.

Here are some highlights of the 2014 Z/28:

UNDER THE HOOD: 7-liter (427-cubic-inch) V-8 from the Corvette that puts out more than 500 horsepower. GM wouldn't reveal a zero to 60 mph time. Six-speed manual transmission with close gear range.

OUTSIDE: Fender flares over the wheels to reduce wind drag. Extended panels at the bottom of the doors and a rear spoiler also improve aerodynamics.

INSIDE: New matte-metallic finish on the trim. Flat-bottomed steering wheel, standard Recaro seats that are more supportive for the race track. Front seats don't have power adjustments in order to save weight. Rear seats also were modified to cut pounds.

FUEL ECONOMY: Not disclosed. Likely to be less than the current Camaro with a manual transmission and 6.2-liter V-8, which gets 14 mpg in the city and 19 on the highway.

PRICE: Also not released. Available late in 2013. Current Camaro SS with a V-8 starts at $31,635.

CHEERS: Harkens back to the glory days of Chevrolet. Will be fast and fun to drive.

JEERS: Ride likely will be harsher and noisier than the standard Camaro.
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Re: here i go again
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2013, 09:18:17 PM »
Forget the ZL1
Forget the GT500
Don't even think about that Z28

Get a 2013 Mustang Cobra Jet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxDKk2AeKc

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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2013, 09:31:33 PM »
I've got an '05 Mustang and a Porsche Boxster. I prefer the Mustang  :D
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2013, 09:40:42 PM »
Forget the ZL1
Forget the GT500
Don't even think about that Z28

Get a 2013 Mustang Cobra Jet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxDKk2AeKc

 while a factory built 8 second dragster is some serious performance.....the problem with the cobrajet would be when the time comes to turn. it ain't gonna happen at 150+mph in that car. that said........awesome car! dam good performance from a 5 liter.

I've got an '05 Mustang and a Porsche Boxster. I prefer the Mustang  :D
i spent some time looking for an 05 or 06 legend lime mustang. wanted another gt, but a 6 banger would've done. i just wanted that green.....'cause my first car was a 67 mustang coupe. lime green.

 
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2013, 04:24:50 PM »
while a factory built 8 second dragster is some serious performance.....the problem with the cobrajet would be when the time comes to turn. it ain't gonna happen at 150+mph in that car. that said........awesome car! dam good performance from a 5 liter.
 i spent some time looking for an 05 or 06 legend lime mustang. wanted another gt, but a 6 banger would've done. i just wanted that green.....'cause my first car was a 67 mustang coupe. lime green.

 

Turning? Pfft. What loser does that kind of crap anyways?


Lol jk. Turning is actually pretty important sometimes. I prefer rally races to track races anyways so I suppose having that Cobra Jet in the thickest kind of crap you could put it in isn't a good idea. However some people do have rallying Mustangs, and they do look fairly badass.

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2013, 04:56:33 PM »
Mustang owners do protest too much methinks.

I accept that some Mustangs might beat my car in a race.  But, my car looks so much cooler.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2013, 10:49:09 PM »
Last year at my companies BBQ, I had Ford bring out some toys.  Contractors love pickup trucks.  But the dealer out here knows I am a mustang fan, so he told the rep's to send out a toy for me.

It showed up after the 5 pick ups were delivered, and the driver drove up, asked for me, got out and tossed me the keys.  I took her out for a drive, came back and he said, "we didn't hear you, take it out again, we want to hear it this time, and the boss says 'thanks'.  "  I send many contractors his way.  So out I went.  They heard me that time.

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2013, 10:54:29 PM »
Mustang owners do protest too much methinks.

I accept that some Mustangs might beat my car in a race.  But, my car looks so much cooler.

You car might look cool, but it will never look Mustang flying through the air from insane amounts of torque cool.
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Re: here i go again
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2013, 05:56:16 AM »
LOL CAP going about his Mushtang, again. :devil

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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2013, 10:41:47 AM »
eigh give me the Lotus Exige s 7:53 maybe a little slower but then it has only 1/2 the horses and better handling .  :old: plus it's fuel economy is far better.
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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2013, 12:24:31 PM »
eigh give me the Lotus Exige s 7:53 maybe a little slower but then it has only 1/2 the horses and better handling .  :old: plus it's fuel economy is far better.

Why would you want the Exige? Get an Evora instead! Much faster and much better looking. Handling isn't as great but it's still a nice car.


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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2013, 03:05:03 PM »
I like the look of the Exige . The deep chin and rear defuser , big wing on the back and kart like handling . yummy . especially with such a small engine compared to the big V8's . 
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