About the new terrain

[Karnak]

Not for long sadly.  A year at most...

Many will go to Win7 or Linux.  Mint is awesome.  Wish AH would run on it (it might but I haven't tried it through the emulator).

MS may not support it, but that has no effect of it running on people's systems.  Why you would think it would go away puzzles me.


As to gamers (many AH players are not gamers, fyi) a lot of us build our own systems and once we have an OS we often install the same OS on our new computer.  This is the third computer of mine that has run the same copy of XP.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

MS may not support it, but that has no effect of it running on people's systems.  Why you would think it would go away puzzles me.


As to gamers (many AH players are not gamers, fyi) a lot of us build our own systems and once we have an OS we often install the same OS on our new computer.  This is the third computer of mine that has run the same copy of XP.

It 'would go away' due to not getting drivers for new hardware and due to the fact that since MS has stoped patching XP any new vulnerabilities will rampage its users.

[Vraciu]

It 'would go away' due to not getting drivers for new hardware and due to the fact that since MS has stoped patching XP any new vulnerabilities will rampage its users.

^^^^^^ This.

[Bear76]

I see dead people...

I smell old people...

[Tinkles]

 

I smell old people...

 

[Bizman]

It 'would go away' due to not getting drivers for new hardware and due to the fact that since MS has stoped patching XP any new vulnerabilities will rampage its users.

Are we talking in general or capability to run AH for some years? In general I'd say yes. In a year or so it would be hard to find a printer for XP. In a few years finding an antivirus would be hard. For everyday use that would be the last minute to unplug it from the internet, IMO.

For solely playing AH, it depends. I wouldn't say that those who play without any antivirus running in the background were safe from vulnerabilities because of the current patches of XP. Their security has been built using other methods. Of course upgrading hardware will become impossible at some point, but definitely not next spring. A high end gaming computer built during the following months will most likely serve perfectly running XP for several years for playing AH. For other games, especially those depending on Steam or other adware XP may become unusable much sooner. As I said, it depends.

There's a worldwide company using abandoned XP licensed office PC's downgraded to 2k, because they find it both cost effective and safe. Knowing how they've done it I can't argue. The same method is easy to adapt for an AH dedicated rig, too.  

[715]

About 1% of gamers probably still run XP. Gamers can't afford to have ancient hardware.

Where did you pull that number out of?  According to the current Steam survey about 7% of Steam gamers are on XP (32 and 64 bit) compared to about 51% on Win 7 and about 18% on Win 8.  So you're off by a factor of 700%.

[Nathan60]

Where did you pull that number out of?  According to the current Steam survey about 7% of Steam gamers are on XP (32 and 64 bit) compared to about 51% on Win 7 and about 18% on Win 8.  So you're off by a factor of 700%.

Add on top of that how many of the AH community have steam so that number would be much higher I would think  with our community

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Are we talking in general or capability to run AH for some years? In general I'd say yes. In a year or so it would be hard to find a printer for XP. In a few years finding an antivirus would be hard. For everyday use that would be the last minute to unplug it from the internet, IMO.

For solely playing AH, it depends. I wouldn't say that those who play without any antivirus running in the background were safe from vulnerabilities because of the current patches of XP. Their security has been built using other methods. Of course upgrading hardware will become impossible at some point, but definitely not next spring. A high end gaming computer built during the following months will most likely serve perfectly running XP for several years for playing AH. For other games, especially those depending on Steam or other adware XP may become unusable much sooner. As I said, it depends.

There's a worldwide company using abandoned XP licensed office PC's downgraded to 2k, because they find it both cost effective and safe. Knowing how they've done it I can't argue. The same method is easy to adapt for an AH dedicated rig, too.  

There are already many gaming titles that simply refuse installing to XP at all. Even if you would find drivers for it you would be fighting a losing battle and exposing yourself to huge security risks. Antiviruses are a joke, they do not protect anyone in reality.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Where did you pull that number out of?  According to the current Steam survey about 7% of Steam gamers are on XP (32 and 64 bit) compared to about 51% on Win 7 and about 18% on Win 8.  So you're off by a factor of 700%.

Wow a whopping 7% lol. And they're probably playing plants vs zombies at 5fps. Yeah, XP is dead.

[Nathan60]

Here is a list of players and what they have played on steam today lets add the numbers

Current   Todays Peak
257,029   517,899       Dota 2
61,341   76,238       Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
56,067   62,756       The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
54,985   71,175       Team Fortress 2
46,660   50,333       Sid Meier's Civilization V
40,472   54,934       Football Manager 2014
32,327   35,128       Garry's Mod
25,022   28,235       Terraria
21,961   36,667       Counter-Strike
18,170   27,272       Counter-Strike: Source
17,844   18,808       Path of Exile
15,645   19,026       Total War: ROME II
14,302   16,360       Warframe
14,250   19,144       Football Manager 2013
14,220   15,350       XCOM: Enemy Unknown
13,443   16,216       Left 4 Dead 2
12,878   15,686       Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag
12,582   17,600       Call of Duty: Ghosts - Multiplayer
11,431   12,343       Borderlands 2
7,213   7,655       Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition
6,756   8,132       PAYDAY 2
6,732   8,635       War Thunder
6,405   11,615       Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer
6,341   6,711       Fallout: New Vegas
6,306   6,441       State of Decay
6,234   6,972       Europa Universalis IV
5,931   7,093       PlanetSide 2
5,809   6,665       Arma 3
5,310   6,217       Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead
5,235   5,470       Kerbal Space Program
4,971   5,217       Rogue Legacy
4,862   6,829       Mount & Blade: Warband
4,809   9,665       Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
4,491   5,126       RIFT™
4,483   4,835       Crusader Kings II
4,423   5,771       Football Manager 2012
4,291   5,356       Empire: Total War
4,245   4,562       Infestation: Survivor Stories
4,153   4,209       BioShock Infinite
3,926   4,184       Game Dev Tycoon
3,806   4,247       Portal 2
3,646   3,861       Age of Empires II: HD Edition
3,640   4,538       Company of Heroes 2
3,540   4,481       No More Room in Hell
3,467   3,727       Killing Floor
3,409   3,865       Sleeping Dogs™
3,363   3,712       Don't Starve
3,331   6,691       Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
3,317   4,232       APB Reloaded
3,279   3,619       Prison Architect
3,252   3,703       The Binding of Isaac
3,208   3,739       Total War: SHOGUN 2
3,199   3,825       Might & Magic: Duel of Champions
3,041   3,163       Risk of Rain
3,041   3,110       FINAL FANTASY VII
3,030   3,334       Euro Truck Simulator 2
2,869   2,885       Saints Row IV
2,838   2,895       Dishonored
2,772   3,129       Batman: Arkham City GOTY
2,733   2,746       Marvel Heroes
2,710   2,938       Chivalry: Medieval Warfare
2,671   3,488       Stronghold Kingdoms
2,640   2,999       EVE Online
2,592   2,951       The Walking Dead
2,563   2,647       Torchlight II
2,546   3,145       Dead Island
2,507   2,674       Star Trek Online
2,452   2,913       Batman™: Arkham Origins
2,434   2,844       Farming Simulator 2013
2,413   2,865       Company of Heroes (New Steam Version)
2,405   2,546       Papers, Please
2,404   2,459       Contagion
2,312   2,412       Spelunky
2,288   2,456       Might & Magic: Heroes VI
2,112   2,337       Far Cry® 3
1,911   1,949       FTL: Faster Than Light
1,900   2,496       X Rebirth
1,877   2,000       Magic 2014
1,828   2,129       The Lord of the Rings Online™
1,814   1,839       Trine 2
1,785   1,952       Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition
1,783   2,696       RAGE
1,737   2,472       Napoleon: Total War
1,723   1,774       Half-Life 2
1,722   2,031       Saints Row: The Third
1,645   2,423       Call of Duty: Ghosts
1,641   2,087       Rising Storm/Red Orchestra 2 Multiplayer
1,621   2,121       Grand Theft Auto IV
1,600   1,801       The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing
1,560   2,539       Call of Duty: Black Ops - Multiplayer
1,553   1,761       Dungeon Defenders
1,553   1,739       Batman: Arkham Asylum GOTY Edition
1,544   1,694       Assassin’s Creed® III
1,530   1,587       The Sims(TM) 3
1,451   2,152       Train Simulator 2014
1,420   1,751       Rocksmith 2014
1,408   1,471       DC Universe Online
1,371   2,150       Panzar
1,363   1,373       Surgeon Simulator 2013
1,332   1,728       Counter-Strike: Condition Zero

You take 7% of the current users that's till a lot of xp users, and 9/10 of the top 10 games can still be played on XP.


Also
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Concerned-with-the-Number-of-PCs-Still-Running-Windows-XP-397538.shtml
“We estimate that up to 377,000 PCs in New Zealand... "377K and that's in New Zealand alone

[Tinkles]

Wow a whopping 7% lol. And they're probably playing plants vs zombies at 5fps. Yeah, XP is dead.

Dying, but far from dead.

And plants vs zombies plays just fine, even on my ancient rig (with XP )

[Karnak]

Wow a whopping 7% lol. And they're probably playing plants vs zombies at 5fps. Yeah, XP is dead.

I am running XP on an eight year old computer with a two year old video card. I get very much more than 5fps in every game I have on the system, AH included.  My system is one of the systems in Steam's database.  Do you think Steam's userbase or AH's userbase has a higher percentage of gamers?  I'd wager that AH's percentage of WinXP users is higher than Steam's.

[Max]

What's steam? 

[68ZooM]

It 'would go away' due to not getting drivers for new hardware and due to the fact that since MS has stoped patching XP any new vulnerabilities will rampage its users.

I find the statement about no more XP updates being released amusing sense i just got a few updates when i just logged online and have been getting them in the past.  Whats your source for that statement.