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Offline JimmyD3

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Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« on: November 26, 2013, 10:42:01 AM »
Its too easy to pork the Strats, we need more defensive puffy ack, or manned guns or something to enhance the Strat defenses.  :frown:
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 11:03:28 AM »
Its too easy to pork the Strats, we need more defensive puffy ack, or manned guns or something to enhance the Strat defenses.  :frown:

In my first three B-29 sorties this tour  I lost 3 bombers to puffy...  :noid


But seriously, how about actively defending the strats by flying a fighter? I know, that's a weird proposal these days, but it actually works.
That is, it could work if players a) would notice anything beyond the red dots in the sector they are in and b) wouldnt think they are "wasting their time" flying a 20minute 20k sortie but at the same time would happily 60 spend minutes in a goon trying to resupp the strats
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 11:27:03 AM »
While I fly mostly MW, we have a similar problem with porking Strats. If we have strat runners, I do up a fighter to intercept. But they are still too easy to pork.

I have noticed in LW every time I log in it seems the Strats are already down, with more bombers on the way. You are correct in that no one seems to want to do any defense on the strats, except for a small minority. :frown:
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 06:13:33 PM »
While I fly mostly MW, we have a similar problem with porking Strats. If we have strat runners, I do up a fighter to intercept. But they are still too easy to pork.

I have noticed in LW every time I log in it seems the Strats are already down, with more bombers on the way. You are correct in that no one seems to want to do any defense on the strats, except for a small minority. :frown:

I agree with this, while Late War if you approach the Strats you might get some interest far quicker then other arenas - I do know quite a few times when I needed perks I just run over to the strats at 25k and rarely got interest.
I say if there are no fighters within 30 miles of the strats, double the Ack, if so then reduce the ack.

Thus would keep things on a fair level for people just porking, vs strategy.
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 06:19:58 PM »
I think attacking the strats alone should almost be suicide.  Same with attacking a carrier group.
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 07:29:33 PM »
I think attacking the strats alone should almost be suicide. 


It is when I'm defending them!!  :old:  :banana:




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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 10:29:20 PM »

It is when I'm defending them!!  :old:  :banana:




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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 10:36:43 PM »
I'd say fix the puffy ack before we increase it.


As it is now, there's no shell fired, and thus it is impossible to dodge and is not blocked by terrain. The bursts just randomly spawn in a zone around your aircraft, and for some reason target friendly fighters as a higher priority threat than the enemy bombers.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 10:43:18 PM »
I'd say fix the puffy ack before we increase it.


As it is now, there's no shell fired, and thus it is impossible to dodge and is not blocked by terrain. The bursts just randomly spawn in a zone around your aircraft, and for some reason target friendly fighters as a higher priority threat than the enemy bombers.

Didn't they "fix" that??? :headscratch:
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 10:43:34 PM »
Didn't they "fix" that??? :headscratch:

Not for me  :mad:.
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 11:20:01 PM »
I'd say fix the puffy ack before we increase it.


As it is now, there's no shell fired, and thus it is impossible to dodge and is not blocked by terrain. The bursts just randomly spawn in a zone around your aircraft, and for some reason target friendly fighters as a higher priority threat than the enemy bombers.
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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 12:09:27 AM »
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356002.75.html
seems alot like this thread with the M3 resupply complaints. 
Mostly it's much ado about nothing  :aok 
Complaints of M3's resupplying yet the complainers clearly do not want to or have tried to destroy them, and complaints about bombers when (probably the same complainers) do not bother to attack them.


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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 12:11:47 AM »
Oh, and BTW speaking of Strats...



Strat raiders sure have it easy... :rofl

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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 04:57:52 AM »
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356002.75.html
seems alot like this thread with the M3 resupply complaints. 
Mostly it's much ado about nothing  :aok 
Complaints of M3's resupplying yet the complainers clearly do not want to or have tried to destroy them, and complaints about bombers when (probably the same complainers) do not bother to attack them.



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Re: Strat Puffy Ack Increase
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 06:16:19 AM »
In my first three B-29 sorties this tour  I lost 3 bombers to puffy...  :noid

But seriously, how about actively defending the strats by flying a fighter? I know, that's a weird proposal these days, but it actually works.
That is, it could work if players a) would notice anything beyond the red dots in the sector they are in and b) wouldnt think they are "wasting their time" flying a 20minute 20k sortie but at the same time would happily 60 spend minutes in a goon trying to resupp the strats
I agree. I did some bomber missions during this tour and the puffy ack damaged my planes more often than I liked. I saw many interceptors on my sorties and I can understand why intercepting buffs can be a frustrating experience for some. Many upped a Bf-110, or some low altitude fighter to chase a 25000ft B-17 formation 1,5 sectors away from target. La7, Ki61, etc is not a good choice to pick because their performance is poor high up. When buffs drop their bombs they become a lot lighter and the climbing performance becomes equal to some fighters. I would also leave the 110 in the hangar unless you have a lot of time and patience. The right choice of an aircraft and flight path makes intercepting bombers faster and more fun.
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