Air Superiority Fighter of 60th-70th

[J.A.W.]

Contrary-wise, if I have 'missed the point' - could it be..
.. that is because it was 'open' to interpretation, & you haven't given your
view of what it means?

Did the original analogy mean no ground beef burger meat can match a fillet steak as
a quality filling?

Or that all burgers are per-se 'junk' food, by comparison to a real deal steak dinner?

Or does it mean that an F-15 is a Texas steak compared to a Mc D-quality MiG?

Or maybe - that a poor quality pilot is gonna end up as ground meat whatever he flies?

[SirNuke]

back to Mirage III...quality plane isn't it? 

it was in competition for the interceptor contract with this Nord 1500 Griffon II




mach 2.19 in 1959

[bozon]

back to Mirage III...quality plane isn't it? 

it was in competition for the interceptor contract with this Nord 1500 Griffon II

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mach 2.19 in 1959

What a hideous beast! It looks like someone attached a mirage III wing to a F-100 body and on top of the place where the cockpit used to be, welded the entire front section an F-106 delta dart. EEEWWW....

Just to think that in some alternate reality this abomination exists instead of the Mirage III...

[J.A.W.]

Crikey, the French sure have a knack for flying oddities don't they..

That lump looks like a reject from a G & S Anderson S-F puppet-show model shop..

& where is the bubble canopy?

[MiloMorai]

Looks like an ancestor of the F-16.

Where is the bubble canopy?

[J.A.W.]

Yeah, they really lost the plot on that pilot combat vision thing - post Korea, huh?

Not enough combat happening - for the fighter jocks to scream out..

'WTF! - Where is my stinkin' bubble canopy!'

Had to wait for the mid-70`s & the F-14/15/16 & etc..

[GScholz]

Bubble canopy was too draggy for '50s and '60s jet engines. Modern fighters have enough power to allow for that compromise without sacrificing too much speed. Just look at the F-104 to see what lengths they had to go to to achieve Mach 2 in those days. It's literally a jet engine with a seat in front of it.

[SirNuke]

the griffon II was powered by a RAMJET engine, its max speed was only limited by the wall of heat  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_1500_Griffon

[J.A.W.]

Bubble canopy 'too draggy'- don't think so.. How did the Sabre-jet manage?

& hot powerful twin-engine `50s-60s birds like the Phantom & Lightning were speed heat limited
canopy-wise, had nothing to do with insufficient thrust..

[Puma44]

Looks like an ancestor of the F-16.

Where is the bubble canopy?
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The "six" and the "zipper" had bubble type canopies,  the "Deuce" did not.

[GScholz]

Bubble canopy 'too draggy'- don't think so.. How did the Sabre-jet manage?

It was subsonic.

[Oldman731]

It was subsonic.

But the Super Saber was not!

Century-series fighters.  Killers, but real man's man planes.

- oldman

[GScholz]

Yeah, and the Super Sabre lost that wonderful F-86 bubble canopy with raised pilot position to a much more slippery canopy with almost no rearward visibility.

[GScholz]

The Super Sabre kinda looks like a Reno racer customized Sabre...

[bozon]

The Super Sabre was the prettiest US jet fighter till the arrival of the F-16. Of course the F-4 Phantoms had the same kind of beauty as the P-47 Thunderbolt and american muscle cars - instead of slick lines and feminine sexiness, they are the beauty of machinery in its pure brutal form that entirely ignores aesthetics. In a way, a machine can be so ugly that it becomes beautiful again.