I will survive!

[Karnak]

I read here in the forum the spitfire had higher dive speed than the 190a, but I have never seen anyone succeeding accomplish that i AH.

It does, but that is past controlability for either of them.  The 190 accelerates into the dive faster, but the Spitfire had a higher terminal velocity.  The Fw190's dive acceleration is vastly more useful than the academic note about terminal dive speed that has no combat application.

[FLOOB]

Without reading the entire thread. Has somebody put forth that such and such plane dives faster because it's heavier yet?

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Sorry, but I do not agree, I've been chased down to terminal speed many many times, with the two second-best divers after me (P47 and P51), I consider the p47 the most dangerous opponent in a dive.

It does, but that is past controlability for either of them.  The 190 accelerates into the dive faster, but the Spitfire had a higher terminal velocity.  The Fw190's dive acceleration is vastly more useful than the academic note about terminal dive speed that has no combat application.

[Tank-Ace]

K4 cant dive or get to the speeds a 51 can....

they can go up to about 550-570 mph in a dive, not far or equal to a P51, they are much less controllable during that dive though.

One member of the few (eatg) did just that, following my A8 all to the deck, I could easy out-roll him easy during pull-up phase, but I missed my shot rolling into him, and he slowed down and could soon outmanoeuvre my plane and get one 30mm to hit.

If I had more altitude he would not have caught me though since terminal dive speed is over 600mph in the A8.

I read here in the forum the spitfire had higher dive speed than the 190a, but I have never seen anyone succeeding accomplish that i AH.

So basically the K4 isn't as good catching the 95% of aircraft that will have to flee from it's superior performance?

[Karnak]

Sorry, but I do not agree, I've been chased down to terminal speed many many times, with the two second-best divers after me (P47 and P51), I consider the p47 the most dangerous opponent in a dive.

How is that relevant to Spitfires?

[Ack-Ack]

The P47's don't compress like the 109 does at about 450 MPH.
The P47's have better stability and handling at higher speeds.
The P47's also are more resistant to parts shredding off in high speed dives.

In theory the P47 is technically better than the K4.

The P-47 suffered from the same compressibility issues as the P-38 did in a high speed dive.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

Anything that is in front of my .50 cals! Can't kill anything with them anymore. Some talk that they were toned down by the guys in the MLW arena, but I think most of mine is packet lost between me and the servers.

The .50 caliber machine guns have not been toned down, despite the claims of a few in the MW arena.  Basically, those people have no clue as to what they're speaking of and have no data to back up their claims.

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[Saxman]

More than likely they didn't know how to use them properly, either, and think just seeing hit sprites should be rewarded with giant chunks of the enemy's planes pop out.

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I tried to say I have never ever seen a spit even close to terminal speed of the 190a, but 47s, and 51s are good second with 550mph+
There used to be a FM error  where the 110c could do a 540mph+ pullup from a dive, but I think HTC have fixed it.

How is that relevant to Spitfires?