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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2013, 08:59:49 AM »
As far as warping into the middle of a planet, I imagine there will be a lot of complex calculations involved in setting a course and destination (IE, as with the hyperdrive in Star Wars).

I'd also imagine they would need to develop some sort of navigational deflector (y'know, that big glowy thing on the front of the many Enterprises) to clear the path ahead ship.

It would be interesting to know if you could collide anything in general while warping. If your stationary in your event field and only the universe around you moves, in your point of view it should be impossible to hit anything moving - but you could possibly collect something in your event field if it happened to enter it along the way. Logically thinking if your ship is moved by the warp, anything that happens to be in it or enter to it should be moved along too. Objects flying in space would naturally have speed of their own and through that cause damage. Warping too close to a star or a planet would also kill most likely.
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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2013, 02:04:20 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2013, 02:07:26 PM »
In all seriousness though, this is very exciting for me. I've always dreamed of working on stuff like that; its the primary reason I decided to major in Aerospace engineering.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2013, 08:30:46 PM »
In all seriousness though, this is very exciting for me. I've always dreamed of working on stuff like that; its the primary reason I decided to major in Aerospace engineering.

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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2013, 09:40:24 PM »
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL  :noid!
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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2013, 09:41:03 PM »
It would be interesting to know if you could collide anything in general while warping. If your stationary in your event field and only the universe around you moves, in your point of view it should be impossible to hit anything moving - but you could possibly collect something in your event field if it happened to enter it along the way. Logically thinking if your ship is moved by the warp, anything that happens to be in it or enter to it should be moved along too. Objects flying in space would naturally have speed of their own and through that cause damage. Warping too close to a star or a planet would also kill most likely.

If the warp is not done correctly, it could cause a self generated wormhole (Star trek 1). One must be brushed up on their slow motion speech before that happens
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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2013, 10:17:21 PM »
Wonder what name they'll choose for the first manned ship? Enterprise would be the cheesy, easy way to do it.

Constitution would be more traditional.
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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2013, 01:54:48 AM »


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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2013, 03:58:06 PM »
Sonny White is running on alternate Woodward conjecture.  Paul March is reportedly working with him, but till I'd heard this, most everyone was really skeptical, on (ironically enough) math basis,  of White's projections.   In any case it's just a matter of time since March (way more approachable) is under NDA since he started serious lab work at Eagleworks.

White & co still need to actually produce negative mass.  The experimental data so far is all literally minuscule in amplitude.  Just above measurement error.  But sure is compelling for more investigation, no argument.


Warp travel issue is really not such a calamity.  Overnight we'd go from earthbound to possibly star bound, with solar system colonization easily feasible.
In practice you could just run pusher ships shielded by comets.  Lotta solutions worked out in SF literature.  If you absolutely had to "icebreak" with ship hull, you could have precursor drones clearing the way to FTL-safe paths.  Basically analogous to how soldiers today deal with pathfinding thru mine fields.
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More interesting than most of these is basic "cheap" propellantless propulsion like Woodward's Mach Effect Thrusters, allowing mundane solar system colonization which would literally change the world.  And computational progress which would enable something like Kurzweil's Singularity - all sci/tech progress multiplied by AI smarts, etc within something like next 50-100 yrs.  And most of all, curing aging (e.g. SENS, Calico...), which again changes the paradigm: the future need not happen so soon if you will live to see it anyway (e.g. Generation ships are different ball game).
Then there's the parallel but no less important developments, e.g. genetics.  Sooner than later there'll be DIY there as for human livelihood there was Renaissance/IndustrialRev/Modern culture divergence and fractalism: people will be modifying themselves and make today's body-modification subculture look microbial in scale and implications for what it is and means to be Human (e.g. behavior mods. Intelligence mods (speed? multitasking? memory? etc, lotta dimensions). Extremophile mods (human photosynthesis? gills? radiation repair? strength?). Biointerface with synthetic prostheses?).
Then extreme basics - extra performance allowed by new materials - carbon compounds (graphene, CNTs, etc), stanene and others, metamaterials (invisibility cloaks etc), room and high temp superconductors, etc. 

All of these make for more plausible "interesting times" than White and even Woodward's almost obsession with wormhole implications of their so-far borderline credible theorizing instead of more immediate and mundane tech that'd make the whole solar system as accessible as Antarctica today.  I.E. no need for freakin wormholes if we've got longevity, true AI, and at least the entire asteroid belt to build with.

Sonny White so far isn't anywhere near most of these, yet these on their own could put us out there.  White is thus mostly hype.
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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2013, 05:58:10 PM »
I would hate for it to be to easy though. I can see RedNecks like me trying to drag a asteroid of mostly gold back to the planet.

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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2013, 06:12:36 PM »
I would hate for it to be to easy though. I can see RedNecks like me trying to drag a asteroid of mostly gold back to the planet.

And there you have the plot premise for the next stupid "reality" show...

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2013, 06:19:40 PM »
Exactly what I was thinking :rofl And it will be called Space Gold.

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2013, 06:24:03 PM »
Turns out they figured it was gold based on the density, and it was really just lead  :lol.
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2013, 06:26:14 PM »
Some lead can be as valuable as gold. Depends on its age.

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Re: Warp 1, engage!
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2013, 08:13:10 PM »
In all seriousness though, this is very exciting for me. I've always dreamed of working on stuff like that; its the primary reason I decided to major in Aerospace engineering.

let me take a while guess you started dreaming about stuff like that last two years of high school and all thru college?  munchies must have been really bad.  I know mine where. 

when I was in high school back in early 80's our science and ecology club (dont ask me why they were together, nobody knew),  found some sticks of solid rocket fuel in an old room that had been used as storage for 20 years.  they were about 1 inch by perhaps 7 or 8 inches long.  they were kind of greasy and all we could read was something and fuel.  we showed it to our teacher, he looked at it, said "interesting, dont know what it is" and gave them back to us.  we advertise on the school newspaper a contest over to build a rocket using the fuel with a field trip to go to the Mohave desert to see which could fly higher.

we had zero entries but we decided to make the field trip anyway.  there were perhaps 7 or 8 of us, 3 girls included, no teacher wanted to go with us but we went anyway.  we went for 3 days and we mostly sat around smoking looking at the stars and wondering how high the rockets would fly if we knew how to build one.  not sure what happened to the sticks. but I will always remember that trip to the stars.

wonder what would have happened today if somebody found some rocket fuel sticks at school. :eek:.


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